What I have seen is that a mere mention of a German dog on this list causes heart palpatations in some listers. ( SOME listers) And then there comes the nasty..... Colleen Donnelly RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 12/29/2004 5:00:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: We have never said that the List was limited to American and Canadian bred dogs. What we have said is that the List is for the American and Canadian-line fancy. It is no secret that people from that group are experimenting with outcrosses, American-German crosses etc., and there has never been any desire to interfere with any such discussions, so long as there was no trashing of the dogs or the fancy. When I first got on the list there was a healthy exchange of ideas, and many enlightening disagreements among members. One of my favorites was the German/American dialogs. We all had our respective passions, like Republicans and Democrats. There was much we gave each other, regardless of our preferences. There was a time, many many moons ago, we learned from the other. Now it seems it has come to "its my way or the highway" mentality, when it comes to many important aspects of our Breed. Not healthy, or SEXY! The Administrators of this List have always allowed healthy discussions, and have only stepped in when needed. We all tend to take things to personally, and passions rule good manners at times. I would not want to be on a lists without the safeguards we have here. Still waiting for that extra- nice German Dog in our rings, I remain Randy Chesnut ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ The only way to understand & estimate the nature of the dog is to study his whole development. Such a task requires a sympathetic, dog-loving observer, who tries as far as possible to enter into the innermost mind of the dog, and who will know how to short-circuit all his purely human points of view. --Max von Stephanitz --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================