DEAR LIST, I think we are forgetting one variable which I am NEVER allowed to forget living on a tropical isle...the relative humidity. If one lives up north and takes some film out of the fridge on a winter's day when the rel hum is 20% there is much less chance of humidity building up on the film. For me, from December to May the rel hum is between 50 and 60% so I let the film warm up at least two hours from the freezer. When the rains start in June and even more so from September to the end of November, if I walk out of my air conditioned office/darkroom (c.a. 75 F)while still wearing my reading glasses, they fog over!!! On many days the rel hum is in the high 90%s. Imagine what would happen to film if I brought it out of the freezer and immediately removed it from its hermetic seals. CHEERS! BOB -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:25 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Refrigerate film? -----Original Message----- >From: Peter Badcock <peter.badcock@xxxxxxxxx> >Sent: May 18, 2008 11:13 PM >To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Refrigerate film? > >Nicholas, > >Are you also looking for a lensing effect of the condensed water droplets >that would optically distort the image ? Perhaps such a lensing effect is >already well documented and constitutes more concern than actual damage to >the film itself. > >To ensure you test out lensing effects, you need to take photographs during >the period that there are water droplets on the film. Presence of water >droplets can be checked by looking at the leader of another roll of film you >removed the same time from the freezer. > >regards >Peter > >2008/5/18 Nicholas O. Lindan <nolindan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > The problem is not focusing of light by droplets but rather distortion of the emulsion layer by the water which can leave mottling and marks like water spots from droplets when film is drying. The warning is universal in the literature and in Kodak's instructions. While modern emulsions are harder than those of the past and should be more resistant to this kind of damage it can still happen. It may not be necessary to wait very long when opening film that has only been refrigerated but frozen film should be alowed to warm up for some time before opening. I will see if I can find the Kodak bulletin about this. -- Richard Knoppow dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Los Angeles, CA, USA ============================================================================ ================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. __________ NOD32 3108 (20080519) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.