[pure-silver] Re: Fees
- From: Lloyd Erlick <lloyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:27:05 -0400
April 20, 2006, from Lloyd Erlick,
At 10:55 AM 4/20/2006 , >Eric wrote:
>I would suggest that it has to do with your target market. There are studios
>here in Dallas, that charge a sitting fee which includes 1) 8x10 finished
>print - that means mounted with an over matte, but no frame for $750.00.
>That might include 10 to 15 rolls of medium format shots; extra prints start
>at $250.00 and the sky is the limit.
I'm glad to know this!
My sitting fee of CND610.00 includes one 16x20 print. Extra prints are 175
dollars (Canadian ...). Sure, the sky is the limit, but few people order
very many. I don't care what size print they want, I charge 175. Otherwise
I'd never make a 16x20! And yes, every print I sell is hand made by me on
real FB photo paper that has to be soaked in those stinky chemicals that
eat your flesh and give you cancer, eh?? I do call it art, and I put my
name on it to prove it.
It's quite routine for me to expose ten rolls of 120 film (usually Kodak
TMY). Sixteen rolls would not be unusual.
... a reasonable fee which
>includes a print or two that is hand crafted is not much to ask. If you look
>at it in an hourly sense,
I wholeheartedly agree. I wish I could get a reasonable fee, or at least a
fee that is commensurate with the effort I put into the work. I do indeed
make a print that is hand crafted and the very best I can do. I never farm
the work out to others, and the prints I make are intended to become a
family resource for future generations that might wish to know these folks.
I'm tempted to call them heirlooms, but that's like calling them - dare say
it?! - ART.
Yes, damn it, my work IS art, and it is sold too cheap.
...
>Is your product a quick print from a drug store or a finely finished work,
>dare I say it, of ART?
Definitely happy to hear you say it!
I remain professionally silent when I am shown examples of portraiture that
people have spent plenty to have made. With rare exceptions, people are
sold portraits that are interpersonally inept, devoid of human
expressiveness, cheaply produced on cheap materials, and technically of
lower quality than acceptable. It just proves to me again that I am lacking
in the ability to generate business for myself. As usual crap sells, and I
can't even say out loud, but this is crap!
...
Maybe we could start a series of critiques ("lit crit", not carping!) of
photographers' work. Famous big-ticket photogs, I mean. As a portraitist I
think I'm competent to criticize such figures as Karsh and Avedon. I'm
reluctant to criticize workers who are just struggling along, not getting
the big bucks or big attention. I think plenty of people on this list are
competent in areas like landscape or any other.
We could start with the portrait of Henry Kissinger by Karsh ...
regards,
--le
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