This probably explains what I have been observing for some time with the RC paper that I have been using. The backs of the prints turn a tan color within a few months, but the image side is not affected. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: Dave Valvo [mailto:dvalvo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:19 AM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Any news from Ilford? Richard, the truth is that Ilford RC papers with a full slug of ID would degrade within 6 months of processing. What happens is the ID is not locked into the emulsion. It leaches through the resin layer into the paper fibers as it sits in the box before processing. After processing, the ID within the paper begins to oxidize and turns a pinky color with increased Dmin visible from both sides. Kodak RC papers never had this problem because their paper fibers contain antioxidants to neutralize any ID that migrates. Thus Ilford, with Deluxe paper, removed most of their ID from their paper but left a little in for shelf life pre-process stability. You should be able to detect it with the carbonate solution (high pH) Ryuji suggests. Some natural age tests I have run on Ilford Deluxe RC papers show the defect is still there but to a much, much lesser extent and it takes a longer time to be visible. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Any news from Ilford? > > > Ilford has made both kinds. My memory is that the "Deluxe" paper > does not contain developer, the other versions do. Supposedly, this > was to make the Deluxe paper perform more like fiber paper. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ============================================================================ ================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to > your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. > ================================================================================ ============================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.