I didn't say that Window Eyes is crap. Where did you read that?(Oh yes, I said that lynx is crap, but it is not my problem if it is, although I am using it sometimes)
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 7:38 PMSubject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting Introduction
Well, someone who talks like crap, and who thinks that htis or that is crap, doesn't even have the potential to even try to fix something. And you know why? Because your brain has crappy bad sectors which unfortunatlly can't be fixed. Windoweyes is crap, Links is crap, this is crap, that is crap ... come on man do you hear your self??? Grow up man, kinder garden is long ago away from you, at leest i think its suppose to be like that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:08 PMSubject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting IntroductionBut what are you suggesting? To make just a few settings to a crappy synthesizer like espeak for creating one that sounds very well?Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:42 AMSubject: RE: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting IntroductionRofl, i think that i'll stop replying to your messages. In none of the postsi never mentioned to you to make your own synth, but ... Never mind, the rest of the listers got it what i wanted to say. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian RasnitaSent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:15 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting IntroductionOh yes I know the story of Eloquence, and ViaVoice is one the synthesizers Iliked that I could use under Linux.I also have WinTalker synthesizer for romanian installed, but as I told, Idon't like it because it sounds very robotic.Those who started using a computer by using WinTalker like it, but I don't.I like how it sounds the synthesizer that can be bought fromwww.expressivo.com, however it is pretty slow responsive, and the desktop program Expressivo doesn't create a sound as clear as the one that can betested on that web site.It is not open source, but this is less relevant, because I want to use abetter synth, not to create my own. Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:07 AM Subject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting IntroductionWell since you brought up some very good questions,let me break this message into logical pieces and give you the answers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting IntroductionNo ofcourse not, everyone chooses its own way. I was just stating how the"Yes, of course I am lazy. So? Is this a problem? :-)"situation in general works with blind popularity, no matter in whatcountry you are. Ok ofcourse, in smaller countrys like Romania or Croatia in my case, the situation is harder but than the person has to see if thesolution can be adapted for your language considering the best results, financial situation, amount of people who work on the project, timing, knoledge etc."I don't think I can build a software synthesizer at least as good as US Eloquence by just reading the documentation and making research, withoutCorrect, but i never said that. When i said that you can checkout espeak,knowing C/C++."i thought that you will find the documentation and the web page considering the thinks you did in the past. In order to make betterimprovements for espeak you really don't need to know c plus plus, ok ifyou know it better for you, but still you can see what sounds wrong and what you can do to make it sound better or to pronounce differentcharacters or words, and also make different voices which really can soundcompletely different."There are more romanian synthesizers, but I don't like any of them, and they all are made by software companies that have more good programmers. One of them sounds pretty good but is very slow responsive, another onesounds like a robot and it doesn't work at a higher rate, another onesounds very very bad (the one which is made by the german company Baum,that company that made Gnopernicus screen reader for Linux, and Virgo screen reader for Windows)."If some company has more developers employed that doesn't need to meananything. In my case, software solutions which were made by an individual showed up as better because the developer really showed more interest thathis aplication works with all screen readers, languages, protocols etc. I worked on almost all software synth development exept Check wintalker voice which is also have adapted for Croatian language. I told you to try and join espeak development team for Romanian mainly because espeak is right now used under windows as a sapi 5, as a standalone portable version in windows screen reader called nvda, and orca for linux and also it can work with mac. So lots of platforms are supported, just because its author is very open minded and accepts lots of suggestionas long as the person knows language rules and something about computer usage.If you need more info about speech synths you can contact me privately andi'll write you more about it."Even if I would know C/C++, I don't think that it would be easy enoughto create a better synthesizer than US Eloquence. And by the way, where can we find documentation about how to create a synthesizer at least as good and fast as Eloquence? I am asking this, because you seem to be very well informed..."I have the documentation about sapi synths and how to make them, i can send you the book about it. Eloquence as far as i'm aware came out from IBM's via voice which became eloquence at the later time. Eloquencebelongs to the group of formant speech synthesizers and that explains oneof the sides why is it so responsive. 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