RE: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting Introduction
- From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:42:53 +0200
Rofl, i think that i'll stop replying to your messages. In none of the posts
i never mentioned to you to make your own synth, but ... Never mind, the
rest of the listers got it what i wanted to say.
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:15 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting
Introduction
Oh yes I know the story of Eloquence, and ViaVoice is one the synthesizers I
liked that I could use under Linux.
I also have WinTalker synthesizer for romanian installed, but as I told, I
don't like it because it sounds very robotic.
Those who started using a computer by using WinTalker like it, but I don't.
I like how it sounds the synthesizer that can be bought from
www.expressivo.com, however it is pretty slow responsive, and the desktop
program Expressivo doesn't create a sound as clear as the one that can be
tested on that web site.
It is not open source, but this is less relevant, because I want to use a
better synth, not to create my own.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Percinic" <mario.percinic@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting
Introduction
> Well since you brought up some very good questions,let me break this
> message into logical pieces and give you the answers.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Fritz Will Be Digging Into This - Window-Eyes Scripting
> Introduction
>
>
>> "Yes, of course I am lazy. So? Is this a problem? :-)"
>>
> No ofcourse not, everyone chooses its own way. I was just stating how the
> situation in general works with blind popularity, no matter in what
> country you are. Ok ofcourse, in smaller countrys like Romania or Croatia
> in my case, the situation is harder but than the person has to see if the
> solution can be adapted for your language considering the best results,
> financial situation, amount of people who work on the project, timing,
> knoledge etc.
>
>> "I don't think I can build a software synthesizer at least as good as US
>> Eloquence by just reading the documentation and making research, without
>> knowing C/C++."
>>
> Correct, but i never said that. When i said that you can checkout espeak,
> i thought that you will find the documentation and the web page
> considering the thinks you did in the past. In order to make better
> improvements for espeak you really don't need to know c plus plus, ok if
> you know it better for you, but still you can see what sounds wrong and
> what you can do to make it sound better or to pronounce different
> characters or words, and also make different voices which really can sound
> completely different.
>
>
>> "There are more romanian synthesizers, but I don't like any of them, and
>> they all are made by software companies that have more good programmers.
>> One of them sounds pretty good but is very slow responsive, another one
>> sounds like a robot and it doesn't work at a higher rate, another one
>> sounds very very bad (the one which is made by the german company Baum,
>> that company that made Gnopernicus screen reader for Linux, and Virgo
>> screen reader for Windows)."
>>
> If some company has more developers employed that doesn't need to mean
> anything. In my case, software solutions which were made by an individual
> showed up as better because the developer really showed more interest that
> his aplication works with all screen readers, languages, protocols etc.
> I worked on almost all software synth development exept Check wintalker
> voice which is also have adapted for Croatian language.
> I told you to try and join espeak development team for Romanian mainly
> because espeak is right now used under windows as a sapi 5, as a stand
> alone portable version in windows screen reader called nvda, and orca for
> linux and also it can work with mac. So lots of platforms are supported,
> just because its author is very open minded and accepts lots of suggestion
> as long as the person knows language rules and something about computer
> usage.
> If you need more info about speech synths you can contact me privately and
> i'll write you more about it.
>
>
>> "Even if I would know C/C++, I don't think that it would be easy enough
>> to create a better synthesizer than US Eloquence.
>> And by the way, where can we find documentation about how to create a
>> synthesizer at least as good and fast as Eloquence?
>> I am asking this, because you seem to be very well informed..."
>>
> I have the documentation about sapi synths and how to make them, i can
> send you the book about it. Eloquence as far as i'm aware came out from
> IBM's via voice which became eloquence at the later time. Eloquence
> belongs to the group of formant speech synthesizers and that explains one
> of the sides why is it so responsive.
> Mario
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