RE: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?

  • From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 16:26:51 -0500

Sure.  You can go to www.mojoportal.com and read all of the comprehensive
documentation, and thanks to joe Audette, all of the learning and stuff has
already been done for you.  My blind accessibility advocate site
(www.raeder24.org, also a demo site, downloads site, message board, and
blog), is based off of this CMS, and both sides, being the admin features as
well as the end user experience, are completely section 508 compliant.
There is a friendly community, and considering how nice they are, they're
more than likely to answer all of your questions.  And in light of what was
said about selling add-ons, they can also be downloadable for free.  Mojo
portal is a great CMs, used by both widely known businesses as well as
personal site owners around the world.  I7Media is a great web host of Mojo
portal.  They allow for the entire web gallery, databases cost nothing (all
integrated), and for help on configuration, setup, as well as development,
you get help from the workers there too.  Despite it's ASP.net nature, it's
beautiful, and highly recommended.  

Katherine

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 11:20 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?

Rick, I've used both wamp & xamp when developing drupal sites on my test
server. It's no problem. U will want to ensure all needed security measures
are in place, of course, but it works well. Using that, u can either develop
w/wordpress or drupal or, evidently, MoJo portal. Thanks for telling us
about this 1, Catherine. Could u explain more, or provide a link for further
info?

From my perspective, much depends on the site size & the user's experience
level. For small sites &/or relatively inexperienced users, Wordpress is
definitively a plus. For larger sites &/or those administered by experienced
folks, Drupal is indeed a wonderful option.

I've not developed with either simplecms or mojo, so can't speak to those
intelligently, assuming I could ever speak intelligently to anything lol.

This has been an informative discussion, making me aware of options I didn't
know existed. I'm also glad to see it hasn't degenerated into an
argument/debate between proponents of the various cms solutions out there.

Thanks for a great list, all.

On 12/11/10, Katherine Moss <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I must say though that government sites also use Mojo Portal, and his 
> mission, it seems, is to make sure that his CMS complies with the 508 
> accessibility standard, and he even has me on the development team to 
> ensure that he is doing so, and to tell him right away if there is 
> something that is not accessible in the least.  The admin's name is 
> Joe Audette.  And by the way, that product can use many a database 
> including MySQL, SQL Server, SQLite, Firebird SQL, and SQLCE.  Also, 
> it can run on a Linux environment with Apache and Mod_ASP.net.  Drupal 
> can also run on IIS if you don't want to deal with Linux environments.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 5:46 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>
> Hi Katherine: Well, don't give up on MS just yet. I have just started 
> looking at how to develop Sharepoint solutions in Visual Studio and it 
> sounds pretty clean and powerful as an integrated approach. I know I 
> tried building a Local Website using Web Parts in VB.net 2008 and 
> found the experience not screen reader friendly. Or, at least, not as 
> friendly as using standard UI Controls in a regular old Website. When 
> Windoweyes 8 comes out I might take a look at Vb.net 2010 to see what, 
> if any, Sharepoint tools are included in the package and how 
> accessible they are. In the meantime I have seen that various U.S. 
> Government agencies and even the White House are supposedly using 
> Drupal according to one Drupal Website Webpage. That means that it 
> must be accessible and quite configurable since I would never have 
> guessed those websites were CMS sites. They just look and perform like 
> regular websites unlike many of the Drupal and other CMS sites I have 
> visited recently. So, it seems Drupal can be used effectively if one 
> knows what they are doing. My only reason for not jumping on it is 
> that I like to develop on my local machine and to do that with Drupal 
> I would have to either install something like xampp or whatever to get 
> a simulated Linux Environment, set up a Duel Boot software disc 
> somehow or implement the Microsoft IIS based Web Platform which is a 
> huge mess to fix if anything goes wrong with any of it's many,, many 
> modules installed. In fact, one problem would likely be port conflicts 
> between my current Sql Server and the MySql server which would be 
> automatically installed. Anyway, I don't like headaches so am just holding
off on playing with Drupal even though it sounds pretty nice I am of the
KISS school of thought - Keep It Simple Sir!
> (Note: you can substitute any word starting with "S" for the word 
> "Sir" in the above phrase - grin. Oh Ya, I am not so sure that the 
> thousand or so apps created by third party folks are designed to be 
> accessible to screen readers so that is always a concern as well when 
> working with an Open Source Project with no Accessibility standards 
> for third party software plugs or apps.
> Well, that's all I have this morning from chilly Farmington Michigan 
> and I am off to do a little more reading on Visual Studio 2010 and 
> Sharepoint 2010 with any related offerings like Office or other 
> modules and compare the development and maintenance process to that of 
> Drupal. Right now I am not sure which way to fall - headaches with 
> Linux on a Windows machine or working in Visual Studio and withthe 
> built-in Sharepoint and other tools and the learning curve of WPF and 
> Silverlight if necessary. I really will tend twoard the one that is 
> the most stable over the next 5 years or so, has the easiest 
> procedures for working with sites and offers the greatest flexibility. 
> Oh ya, also add in a weighted factor based on the learning curve. I 
> would like to work in the Linux environment mainly because so many of 
> the old timers on this list work in it but I have had my doubts about 
> how productive I might be in that environment compared to a comprehensive
integrated IDE.
> I must wait  for  Windoweyes 8 to see how accessible vb.net 2010 or 
> other VS products will be with it since they use the new UIA Accessibility
hooks.
> Later Katherine and don't give up on MS Stuff just pick the right tool 
> for the job - that is what the qualified professionals do:
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:27 AM
> Subject: RE: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>
>
>> Oh gosh, Jamal, thanks!  These anti-Microsoft folks are killing me!
>> And whoever called Mojo Portal "Mojo thing that no one has heard of"
>> better think again.  I'm a volunteer on the project, and I don't 
>> appreciate people's work being insulted.  And besides, that CMS works 
>> on Linux despite it's coding.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal 
>> Mazrui
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:27 PM
>> To: ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>> Here is the web site of an ASP.NET-based CMS:
>>
>> DotNetNuke - The Leading Open Source Web Content Management Platform 
>> for ASP.NET -
>>
>> http://www.dotnetnuke.com/
>>
>> Jamal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>> RicksPlace
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:43 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>
>> Hi Gang: Jim, I don't know just yet. My preference would be to just 
>> learn whatever Jamal is doing but I am now thinking of putting up 
>> some sites for some blind folks so their sites are kept up to date 
>> and work well with screen readers so I am not sure about the scope of 
>> my involvement. It might be Drupal based or, more likely if really 
>> accessible, something in the Microsoft venu since I am familiar with 
>> their DB stuff and coding websites using various ASP Controls and 
>> Server Side coding technicals.
>> For development I might use one of the packages Jacques or Katherine 
>> mentioned but I can start reading up on them to get some color on 
>> what this stuff is all about.
>> Hay, Jacques, are you French? If so, are you from across the pond?
>> Later and thanks for the ideas to explore.
>> Rick Farmington Michigan USA
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Katherine Moss <mailto:plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>>  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:19 AM
>>  Subject: RE: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>
>>
>>  Look at both Umbraco and Mojo Portal.
>>
>>
>>
>>  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>> RicksPlace
>>  Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:01 AM
>>  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Subject: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>
>>
>>
>>  Hi: I know very little about CMS. As a result of Jamal using it, I 
>> have looked at some of the Drupal docs by googling but am having 
>> trouble wrapping my head around exactly how it all works since I am 
>> an old Microsoft user. I am trying to figure out a similar option in 
>> the Microsoft World. So far I think that Sharepoint and Open Office, 
>> both
>> 2010 versionws with accessibility, sound like they are the Microsoft 
>> counterpart to Drupal. does this sound about right? Since they 
>> support ARIA and the other new Web Standards, or at least some 
>> articles say they do, has anyone tried them out? If there is another 
>> Microsoft thingy where it looks or works sort of a CMS with DB 
>> storage and perhaps Media support could you mention it so I can do a 
>> little more
> digging?
>>
>>  It looks like allot of blind folks are trying to use various CMS 
>> Websites and most of them are pretty bad. They also sound almost as 
>> complex to create and maintain as a standard Website developed in 
>> something like VWD. Anyway, thanks for any input you provide on CMS, 
>> Drupal or any Microsoft counterpart products that I can research a 
>> little more.
>>
>>  Again, the Microsoft 2010 versions of the Open Office and Sharepoint 
>> are suppose to be accessible where the older versions were not very 
>> accessible if that helps.
>>
>>  Rick USA
>>
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