RE: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:59:59 -0500

Hi Rick,
You'd do this if you were creating HTML and uploading it as static files that 
the web server would pass to the person who browses your site. But, if you use 
something like Drupal, you might do something like type content into MS Word 
and spell check it, open up your browser, go to a form that has a big text 
field, and paste your content.

I think that maybe Ty is saying that WinSCP gets the file from a server and 
fires up a Windows editor. He changes the file and saves it. WinSCP then puts 
the new file back on the server. I hope I'm understanding this.

In the past, I have used FTP to get a file from the server manually, open an 
editor, change the file, then use FTP to put it back. I then would fire up my 
web browser  and browse the file to make sure it looks like what I want it to 
look. Another way you can do all of this is to keep a copy of the web site on 
your local machine and change the files there, and test them, then put them up 
on the server. And if you have some sort of dynamic environment that might 
include something like PHP with MySQL, you could get yourself a Windows version 
of Apache, PHP, and MYSQL, install it, and pretend that the whole web site is 
on your computer and test the thing there until you're ready to shoot the files 
up to the real server.

You can get such an environment at http://www.apachefriends.org/.

And if you want to do this in the Microsoft world using something like Active 
Server Pages, you'd probably get something like Internet Information Services, 
which used to be free with Windows XP, and just go into Control Panel and add 
it through Add/Remove and choose Windows Components. I don't know how it's done 
with Vista or Windows 7 these days. And you'd probably use ODBC and some 
database or other, like Access, MySQL, or something. You can also hook up PHP 
to Internet Information Services.

Thanks.

Jim

Jim Homme,
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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 3:33 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?

Hi Ty: Thanks. I looked at the ftp thingy and get how it works. One
question, when you open a server file on your local machine, that is, when
you hit enter on a server file you want to edit and it is loaded into your
text editor of choice; Can you then save the file to your local machine for
later work offline? Then I would guess you would just upload it using ftp as
usual when done if you can work offline. Also, how do you test your coding
changes? You upload the modified file to the server and then what? Do you
just run the website and look for browser error messages or is there
something else that helps you debug your code?
Thanks again Ty:
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?


> Rick,
> What I do is just use WINScp, which allows me to use any editor I wish.
> Basically I connect through scp/sftp and when I hit enter on a file, it
> brings it up in the editor of my choosing, I do my editing and save and it
> uploads it for me.
> If you want to get something like this going, let me know and I can help.
> On 12/10/2010 11:56 AM, RicksPlace wrote:
>> Thanks Jamal: Question, are you developing for Drupal, your
>> NonVisualDevelopment site, on your local machine and, if so, is it a
>> Windows OS running something like xampp or a version of the IIS
>> installation procedure?
>> Do you have a duel boot machine or how do you work on your website prior
>> to uploading the html, db stuff or event processors?
>> Rick USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 12:26 PM
>> Subject: RE: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rick,
>>> Here is the web site of an ASP.NET-based CMS:
>>>
>>> DotNetNuke - The Leading Open Source Web Content Management Platform for
>>> ASP.NET -
>>>
>>> http://www.dotnetnuke.com/
>>>
>>> Jamal
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
>>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:43 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>>
>>> Hi Gang: Jim, I don't know just yet. My preference would be to just
>>> learn whatever Jamal is doing but I am now thinking of putting up some
>>> sites for some blind folks so their sites are kept up to date and work
>>> well with screen readers so I am not sure about the scope of my
>>> involvement. It might be Drupal based or, more likely if really
>>> accessible, something in the Microsoft venu since I am familiar with
>>> their DB stuff and coding websites using various ASP Controls and Server
>>> Side coding technicals. For development I might use one of the packages
>>> Jacques or Katherine mentioned but I can start reading up on them to get
>>> some color on what this stuff is all about.
>>> Hay, Jacques, are you French? If so, are you from across the pond?
>>> Later and thanks for the ideas to explore.
>>> Rick Farmington Michigan USA
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Katherine Moss <mailto:plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 9:19 AM
>>>  Subject: RE: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Look at both Umbraco and Mojo Portal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RicksPlace
>>>  Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:01 AM
>>>  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>  Subject: Drupal and Microsoft CMS Options?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi: I know very little about CMS. As a result of Jamal using it, I have
>>> looked at some of the Drupal docs by googling but am having trouble
>>> wrapping my head around exactly how it all works since I am an old
>>> Microsoft user. I am trying to figure out a similar option in the
>>> Microsoft World. So far I think that Sharepoint and Open Office, both
>>> 2010 versionws with accessibility, sound like they are the Microsoft
>>> counterpart to Drupal. does this sound about right? Since they support
>>> ARIA and the other new Web Standards, or at least some articles say they
>>> do, has anyone tried them out? If there is another Microsoft thingy
>>> where it looks or works sort of a CMS with DB storage and perhaps Media
>>> support could you mention it so I can do a little more digging?
>>>
>>>  It looks like allot of blind folks are trying to use various CMS
>>> Websites and most of them are pretty bad. They also sound almost as
>>> complex to create and maintain as a standard Website developed in
>>> something like VWD. Anyway, thanks for any input you provide on CMS,
>>> Drupal or any Microsoft counterpart products that I can research a
>>> little more.
>>>
>>>  Again, the Microsoft 2010 versions of the Open Office and Sharepoint
>>> are suppose to be accessible where the older versions were not very
>>> accessible if that helps.
>>>
>>>  Rick USA
>>>
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