I think new object types can be created in JavaScript. They follow a prototype rather than class based model. I cannot explain this much better, but encourage further research if interested.
Cheers, Jamal On 10/3/2012 11:31 PM, Louis Bryant wrote:
Hi. You're asking great questions. JavaScript is partially object-oriented. Meaning, objects are built-in to the language but you cannot create your own. With PhoneGap, the only times you'd create objects is when you need to implement functionality that isn't part of the API. In this case, you'd need an Apple computer and you will need to know Objective-C. If you have more questions, please ask and I'll do my best to answer them. I've finally got a hand on Objective-C and building interfaces without Interface Builder! I just have to sit down sometime and put myself to the test. HTH. ----- Original Message ----- 1f#c 1lam@> 1up@aw <lmr.upshaw@xxxxxxxxx> 1to#c <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: Wednesday, Oct 3, 2012 08:46:33 AM Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7I can definitely see how this can give us, as blind and low vision developers, an edge at creating a passable graphical user interface for iOS and Android platforms, but is it enough to create apps that would be able to have objects that may need to send messages among each other? I swear I don't mean to whip a dead horse, or ruffle anyone's feathers, just trying to get clarity. I like that I can use HTML to create the user interface, and javascript to handle the computations behind the scenes, but javascript isn't object oriented, is it? Lol. So much changes over a short period of time, I'm afraid I may have missed something, or could be completely misunderstanding how things work. Please bare with me. I'll get it in short order.@@@> -----Original Message----- @@@> 1f#c program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Louis Bryant Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:40 AM@@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7 Hi. PhoneGap is different. You simply develop the app using HTML5 and JavaScript. Using JavaScript, you can access sensors, the camera, compass, accelerometer, ETC. It is very accessible, and the apps pose no security threats whatsoever. In fact, tuns of apps have been released to the App Store and Android market using PhoneGap. It is really worth a look. If you don't want to use PhoneGap Build then it is up to you to have the necessary hardware and SDK's to compile the generated apps yourself. Your HTML5 and JavaScript are transformed into native Objective-C code. You can access the local filesystem or remote servers in your JavaScript as well. I'll say it again, it's definitely worth a go at! HTH.@@@> ----- Original Message ----- @@@> cb-dsa2fcb-ds2;c cb-dsa2ian 1@3p@>pe <isforums@xxxxxxxx> @@@> cb-dsa2tocb-ds2;c <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,Date: Monday, Oct 1, 2012 06:23:59 PM Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7Thanks for this Louis. I had heard of phone gap and other similar offerings which solved the issue of deploying to multiple Oss but had misunderstood their implementation. I had thought that you simply develop the app in native code, then run it through something like phone gap which generated the necessary binaries for whichever platform. Do you happen to know whether it is possible to host a web app inside a browser which provides access to local interfaces such as accelerometers etc as described previously? Or do you simply develop the app as a stand-alone client application using HTML and Javascript? As I said, I don't have any experience of deploying to the app store but did hear that apps have to conform to some kind of UI standard. I can understand therefore why developing an app whose interface is dynamic and dependent on a remote web application could be an issue. Cheers Ian@@@> @@@> -----Original Message----- @@@> @@@> 1f#c program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx @@@> [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Louis Bryant Sent: 01 October 2012 15:08@@@> @@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7 Hi Ian. You may then want to check out PhoneGap.com. You can develop high quality apps for several mobile platforms, iOS and Android to name a couple using HTML5, CSS, and JavaScript. If you need, you can download plug-ins for the devices in which you intend to take advantage of functionality that isn't part of the PhoneGap API. It is very accessible and was easy to install and setup on my MAC. It also has what is known as PhoneGap Build, where from any OS you can develop and then download binary images from your code for the hardware you wish to support without the need to install any SDK's. The documentation is good to read because you can get to know the PhoneGap API's better. HTH. Louis@@@> @@@> ----- Original Message -----#abbfcb-dsbbc #abbian 1@3p@>pe <isforums@xxxxxxxx> #abbtocb-dsbbc@@@> @@@> <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,Date: Monday, Oct 1, 2012 01:52:42 AM Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7I sent the below in response to a thread regarding IOS UI development a while ago now but thought I'd send it again as it may beof help.Also I'm actually looking at potentially creating an app myself now and feel this approach is probably the best way forward at this time based on others comments. I don't have any experience with developing for the iPhone (or any other mobile device for that matter) in terms of native code and had no idea how poor the situation seems to be in terms of accessibility. It sounds like some of you have bitten the bullet and found ways of addressing the limitations around creating GUIs but this sounds horrible. And then there's a $100 fee to just run your own app on your ownphone?I was only just reading an article the other day about a "devicebrowser"which an Android developer had developed to provide web developers with access to the various devices and sensors on Android phones via Javascript the idea being that the web developers, who were great at web development but who might have a steep learning curve to switch to native apps, could simply develop an app using HTML5 as the interface but still gain access to the lower level devices otherwise not availablethrough a standard browser.I'd be surprised if something similar doesn't exist for the iPhone? In theory, the app would simply be a specific instance of the device browser which pointed at a URL where the actual code resided as a webapplication.So essentially you would write the application in whichever server-side programming language you prefer and javascript to access low level interfaces to devices not currently available via a standard web browser and could create the interface as HTML. Personally I think this provides a really nice programming model anyway and potentially gives you a degree of flexibility not offered through a native app. In particular, you could quickly make changes to the server-side web application which would automatically be propagated across all apps hosted on whichever mobile platform they areon. No upgrade needed.Obviously this may not fit into everyone's business model but it would for me and I would be very interested to know what any of the more experience IOS developers think of this approach. In particular, whether such an application would get through the app stores vetting process? I get the impression that apps have to be of a certain quality in terms of GUI to get onto the app store but because the app would actually be a web application hosted elsewhere, I can see why they may reject the application as the interface could change without any further review. Or they may just not want to support this kind of deployment as it could potentially lead to lower revenues in the longterm.Anyway, be really interested to hear what others think and / or whether such an approach would be allowed onto the app store. Cheers Ian@@@> @@@> @@@> -----Original Message----- @@@> @@@> @@@> 1f#c program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx @@@> @@@> [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Barry Jennings Sent: 01 October 2012 06:21@@@> @@@> @@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7 Are there tools for creating a user interface with gnustep or is this just GCC with the libraries for Objective C? In other words do we have an accessible way here to get around the inaccessible InterfaceBuilder?Barry@@@> @@@> @@@> -----Original Message----- @@@> @@@> @@@> 1f#c jaffar.sidek10@xxxxxxxxxSent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:06 PM@@@> @@@> @@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7 Hi. Also. The latest MinGW compiler which i believe to be 4.7.0 comes with an objective c compiler, so those interested might like to giveit a try.And with the IPhone being as popular as it is right now, I am only surprised that the mainstream apps like visual studio hasn't yet made objective c as part of their programming framework. Cheers!@@@> @@@> @@@> -----Original Message-----From: Louis Bryant Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:23 AM@@@> @@@> @@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7 How cool! Thanks!@@@> @@@> @@@> ----- Original Message -----@@@> #abbfcb-dsbbc <jaffar.sidek10@xxxxxxxxx> @@@> #abbtocb-dsbbc@@@> @@@> <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,Date: Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 04:23:56 PM Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7HI. This is a tutorial/introductory link for GnuStep, a gnu objective c port that is specially used on windows to code for the iossystem.I've tried it and it works,@@@> @@@> @@@> @@@> www.gnustep.org/resources/ObjCFun.htmlenjoy.@@@> @@@> @@@> @@@> -----Original Message-----From: Lamar Upshaw Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:32 PM@@@> @@@> @@@> @@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [program-l] Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7 Does anyone know if this is possible? I'm just trying to get pointed in the right direction. I want to create apps for the iOS platform, using the objective-C language, but I only have a windows 7machine.Any suggestions and/or experience with writing iOS apps are very welcome. 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