[program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
- From: "Ian Sharpe" <isforums@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 23:02:31 +0100
Thanks for this Louis. I had heard of phone gap and other similar offerings
which solved the issue of deploying to multiple Oss but had misunderstood
their implementation. I had thought that you simply develop the app in
native code, then run it through something like phone gap which generated
the necessary binaries for whichever platform.
Do you happen to know whether it is possible to host a web app inside a
browser which provides access to local interfaces such as accelerometers etc
as described previously? Or do you simply develop the app as a stand-alone
client application using HTML and Javascript? As I said, I don't have any
experience of deploying to the app store but did hear that apps have to
conform to some kind of UI standard. I can understand therefore why
developing an app whose interface is dynamic and dependent on a remote web
application could be an issue.
Cheers
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Louis Bryant
Sent: 01 October 2012 15:08
To: program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
Hi Ian. You may then want to check out PhoneGap.com. You can develop high
quality apps for several mobile platforms, iOS and Android to name a couple
using HTML5, CSS, and JavaScript. If you need, you can download plug-ins for
the devices in which you intend to take advantage of functionality that
isn't part of the PhoneGap API. It is very accessible and was easy to
install and setup on my MAC. It also has what is known as PhoneGap Build,
where from any OS you can develop and then download binary images from your
code for the hardware you wish to support without the need to install any
SDK's. The documentation is good to read because you can get to know the
PhoneGap API's better. HTH. Louis
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#a;fcb-ds;c #a;ian 1@3p@>pe <isforums@xxxxxxxx> #a;tocb-ds;c
<program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: Monday, Oct 1, 2012 01:52:42 AM
Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
>
>
> I sent the below in response to a thread regarding IOS UI development
> a while ago now but thought I'd send it again as it may be of help.
> Also I'm actually looking at potentially creating an app myself now
> and feel this approach is probably the best way forward at this time
> based on others comments.
>
> I don't have any experience with developing for the iPhone (or any
> other mobile device for that matter) in terms of native code and had
> no idea how poor the situation seems to be in terms of accessibility.
> It sounds like some of you have bitten the bullet and found ways of
> addressing the limitations around creating GUIs but this sounds
> horrible. And then there's a $100 fee to just run your own app on your own
phone?
>
> I was only just reading an article the other day about a "device browser"
> which an Android developer had developed to provide web developers
> with access to the various devices and sensors on Android phones via
> Javascript - the idea being that the web developers, who were great at
> web development but who might have a steep learning curve to switch to
> native apps, could simply develop an app using HTML5 as the interface
> but still gain access to the lower level devices otherwise not available
through a standard browser.
> I'd be surprised if something similar doesn't exist for the iPhone?
>
> In theory, the app would simply be a specific instance of the device
> browser which pointed at a URL where the actual code resided as a web
application.
> So essentially you would write the application in whichever
> server-side programming language you prefer and javascript to access
> low level interfaces to devices not currently available via a standard
> web browser and could create the interface as HTML. Personally I think
> this provides a really nice programming model anyway and potentially
> gives you a degree of flexibility not offered through a native app. In
> particular, you could quickly make changes to the server-side web
> application which would automatically be propagated across all apps
> hosted on whichever mobile platform they are on. No upgrade needed.
>
> Obviously this may not fit into everyone's business model but it would
> for me and I would be very interested to know what any of the more
> experience IOS developers think of this approach. In particular,
> whether such an application would get through the app stores vetting
> process? I get the impression that apps have to be of a certain
> quality in terms of GUI to get onto the app store but because the app
> would actually be a web application hosted elsewhere, I can see why
> they may reject the application as the interface could change without
> any further review. Or they may just not want to support this kind of
> deployment as it could potentially lead to lower revenues in the long
term.
>
> Anyway, be really interested to hear what others think and / or
> whether such an approach would be allowed onto the app store.
>
> Cheers
> Ian
>
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[mailto:program-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Barry Jennings
> Sent: 01 October 2012 06:21
@@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
>
> Are there tools for creating a user interface with gnustep or is this
> just GCC with the libraries for Objective C? In other words do we
> have an accessible way here to get around the inaccessible Interface
Builder?
>
> Barry
>
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@@@> 1f#c jaffar.sidek10@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:06 PM
@@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
>
> Hi. Also. The latest MinGW compiler which i believe to be 4.7.0
> comes with an objective c compiler, so those interested might like to give
it a try.
> And with the IPhone being as popular as it is right now, I am only
> surprised that the mainstream apps like visual studio hasn't yet made
> objective c as part of their programming framework. Cheers!
>
@@@> -----Original Message-----
> From: Louis Bryant
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 10:23 AM
@@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
>
> How cool! Thanks!
>
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@@@> #abbfcb-dsbbc <jaffar.sidek10@xxxxxxxxx> @@@> #abbtocb-dsbbc
<program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date: Saturday, Sep 29, 2012 04:23:56 PM
> Subject: [program-l] Re: Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
>
> >
> >
> > HI. This is a tutorial/introductory link for GnuStep, a gnu
> > objective c port that is specially used on windows to code for the ios
system.
> > I've tried it and it works,
@@@> @@@> www.gnustep.org/resources/ObjCFun.html
> > enjoy.
@@@> @@@> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lamar Upshaw
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:32 PM
@@@> @@@> 1to#c program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [program-l] Objective-C coding for iOS on windows 7
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is possible? I'm just trying to get pointed
> > in the right direction. I want to create apps for the iOS platform,
> > using the objective-C language, but I only have a windows 7 machine.
> > Any suggestions and/or experience with writing iOS apps are very
> > welcome.
> >
> > Lamar
> >
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