[program-java] Re: Oracle
- From: Anna Giller <anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:20:16 -0400
Jim, thanks!
What else is built with SWT?
Anna
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:58 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Anna:
SWT is the Standard Widget Tool kit that Eclipse was built with.... SWT
grants us the accessibility to the IDE. SWT utilizes the native Windows
Tool Kit therefore allowing screen readers direct access to the objects
instead of the Sun approach of wrapping the native objects and using
them directly in the VM.
J.
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: October 16, 2009 11:53
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Jim,
What is SWT?
How do I know whether certain application requires the bridge?
How do I know if I have the bridge installed?
Thank you,
Anna
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:43 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Anna:
...that is a question that I'm going to defer... The Access Bridge and
it's host of programming issues is directly why I develop with Eclipse
and SWT.... A SWT app needs no Access Bridge.
J.
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: October 16, 2009 11:38
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Jim,
How to check if I have this bridge now?
If I do have it, when should I download it for upgrade, and where to put
it?
Thank you,
Anna
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:14 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Anna:
The "Bridge" is yet another download from SUN....
J.
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: October 16, 2009 09:58
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Don,
It sounds like a mirakle!
How to connect this tool to my Oracle database and how to launch it?
Also I'm not quite sure what to do with the Accessibility bridge.
I installed JDK only once with somebody's help, and don't remember doing
anything with the Accessibility Bridge.
Doesn't it get installed automatically?
Thank you very much,
Anna
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:55 PM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Anna,
Ok so I did some investigating on my own.
I downloaded Oracle SQLDeveloper 2.1 early adopter version from:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/sql_developer/index.h
tml
It was just released last month and has most, if not all, the
accessibility fixes I have been pushing for over the last year or so.
It allows you to do everything you will need as a dba / database
designer/developer.
I will admit, it can be a bit daunting to use at first, but once you get
the hang of it it is pretty simple.
I hope to put together some instructions/videos on using SQLDeveloper
with jaws over the next few weeks and will keep the list posted on my
progress.
The download page on otn has 2 downloads for the windows version. One
includes a jdk the other does not. If you have a jdk 1.6.0_11 or later
already installed and configured with the accessbridge, I would
reccommend that version otherwise you just have to install the
accessbridge into the included jdk as usual.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
>
>
> Don,
>
> I've done some research and found the following link:
> http://jora.luenasoft.de/index_en.html
>
> Would you please let me know if it's the product you've been talking
> about.
>
> Thank you very much,
> Anna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:53 PM
> To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
>
> Anna,
>
> I will try to find the links. the link I have for downloading is
> internal only, so I will need to find the external link.
> I haven't found any good docume ntation about how to use it as yet,
> but I have pinged one of the guys who has been doing a lot of work
> with it to see if he can provide some pointers to external docs as
> well.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:35 AM
> > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> >
> >
> > Hi Don!
> >
> > Is it hard to install this plug-in?
> > If it's basically accessible, I would like to start using it right
> > now.
> > Would you please tell me how to download it, and where to get a
> > quick start guide.
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> > Anna
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:49 PM
> > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> >
> > Anna,
> >
> > No problem.
> > I am trying the plugin that oracle has for eclipse, and so far, it
> > looks pretty accessible.
> > I am just trying to find out what kind of functionality it has in
> > the area of databsae interaction. I opened a connection to my oracle
> > 10g database as system, and have been able to browse through the
> > users and their tables just fine.
> >
> > I selected data -> edit on one of the tables, and while the fields
> > read just fine, I wasn't getting any relationship to the column
> > headers, so will be filing a bug on that soon.
> >
> > I have to confess I am a total novice when it comes to eclipse, so
> > don't know if there are any tricks to making it more accessible as a
> > framework.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:18 PM
> > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > >
> > >
> > > Don,
> > > Thanks for trying!
> > >
> > > Anna
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:14 PM
> > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > >
> > > Anna,
> > >
> > > I downloaded teh trial version of FriendlySql, but it keeps
> > > telling me that I need an internet connection to run it. I
> > > obviously have
> > an internet
> > > connection, so I can't evaluate the software.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:36 AM
> > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don,
> > > >
> > > > I've just found the tool called Friendly Sql, being advertised
> > > > as Oracle database browser and editor.
> > > > It sounds really friendly.
> > > > It's not free of charge, but I would rather spend money,
> > than have a
> > > > constant frustration.
> > > > Please let me know if you've ever heard about it.
> > > > Here is the link:
> > > > http://friendlysql.com/guide.html
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > Anna
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Don Raikes
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:24 PM
> > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > >
> > > > Anna,
> > > >
> > > > No problem. I am going to be checking out a newer oracle product
> > > > which is an extension to eclipse, and if it offers the
> > > > functionality you need, i will let you know since it sounds like
> > > > yo are already familiar with eclipse.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:01 AM
> > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Don,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much, and please let me get back to you when
> > > > > I'm completely stuck.
> > > > > Also please keep me posted on any Oracle new accessible tools
> > > > > and any news regarding accessibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > Anna
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Don Raikes
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:52 PM
> > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > >
> > > > > Anna,
> > > > >
> > > > > No the helpdesk should be able to give you the isql address,
> > > > > then you just access via your browser and you can do anything,
> > > > > I think, you need in sql to interact with the database.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can also maybe google "oracle isql" and see if there is a
> > > > > link to the isql manual online. most of our documentation is
> > > > > available online, but I don't remember the urls for them.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:49 AM
> > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your information is extremely useful.
> > > > > > Please let me double check: after the help desc installs
> > > > > > Oracle database I should keep the url for the isql
> > > > > > application, and then install ISQL myself.
> > > > > > Is it correct?
> > > > > > Is there a quick start guide for ISQL?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > > > Anna
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > Don Raikes
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:39 PM
> > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anna,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Speaking unofficially, depending on the version of the
> > > > > > database you have installed, you may get the isql webclient
> > > > > > installed with
> > > > > it. This is a
> > > > > > web-based sql client which will generate proper html tables
> > > > > > of the data, I believe, although i haven't tried it in
> > > > > > several years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the end of the database installation, there is a window
> > > > > > that appears that lists the ports for all web-based
> > > > > > administration tools including isql, so have whomever is
> > > > > > doing the install make sure to
> note the url
> > > > > > for the isql
> > > > > > application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, depending on the version of database being installed
> > > > > > the installer will be "fairly" accessible with jaws. I say
> > > > > > fairly because there are, or have been some areas where it
> > > > > > gets a bit tricky to use, but with a little work it is
> > > > > > possible to get it to speak.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *** all views expressed are those of the author and have no
> > > > > bearing on
> > > > > > Oracle's official position on accessibility. ***
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:24 AM
> > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Don!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you mean that command line tool is the only
> interactive
> > > > > > > tool in Oracle?
> > > > > > > Then how to work productively without being able to
> > associate
> > > > > > > the data with
> > > > > > > their column names?
> > > > > > > My co-workers use some online tools to manipulate Oracle
> > > > > > > data. Is there any accessible one?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > Anna
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > Don Raikes
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:12 PM
> > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anna,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The sqlplus that ships with the database is a fairly good
> > > > > > > command-line tool.
> > > > > > > It speaks fairly well wit hjaws, however, it has the
> > > > > > > limitations of all command-line tools like need to use the
> > > > > > > jaws cursor
> > to review
> > > > > > > output, and in
> > > > > > > a listing of data no way to associate data columns
> > with their
> > > > > > > headings.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, soon (hopefully within the next couple
> of months),
> > > > > > > JDeveloper 11g
> > > > > > > patchset 1 will be released which will have some real
> > > > > nice database
> > > > > > > management tools included along with a complete java/web
> > > > > development
> > > > > > > environment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope to be putting up some tutorials on how to use
> > > > > > > JDeveloper with JAWS soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:39 AM
> > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jim,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JDBC is OK, it's plain Java, I can use Eclipse for it.
> > > > > > > > What about Oracle SQL environment? Is it
> > accessible enough?
> > > > > > > > Is it difficult to write and execute a simple query
> > > to create
> > > > > > > > table and
> > > > > > > > insert data?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > > Anna
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > > Corbett, James
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:21 AM
> > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would take a look at JDBC connections and perhaps the
> > > > > JNDI tree
> > > > > > > > depending upon your web server....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > Anna Giller
> > > > > > > > Sent: October 14, 2009 11:10
> > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Oracle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Everyone!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I need to learn Java with Oracle database.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm getting Oracle installed on my machine tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would you please give me an idea what to start with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you know a brief accessible tutorial on Oracle SQL?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anna
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