[program-java] Re: Oracle
- From: Anna Giller <anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:53:01 -0400
Jim,
What is SWT?
How do I know whether certain application requires the bridge?
How do I know if I have the bridge installed?
Thank you,
Anna
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:43 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Anna:
...that is a question that I'm going to defer... The Access Bridge and
it's host of programming issues is directly why I develop with Eclipse
and SWT.... A SWT app needs no Access Bridge.
J.
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: October 16, 2009 11:38
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Jim,
How to check if I have this bridge now?
If I do have it, when should I download it for upgrade, and where to put
it?
Thank you,
Anna
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:14 AM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Anna:
The "Bridge" is yet another download from SUN....
J.
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller
Sent: October 16, 2009 09:58
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Don,
It sounds like a mirakle!
How to connect this tool to my Oracle database and how to launch it?
Also I'm not quite sure what to do with the Accessibility bridge.
I installed JDK only once with somebody's help, and don't remember doing
anything with the Accessibility Bridge.
Doesn't it get installed automatically?
Thank you very much,
Anna
-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:55 PM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
Anna,
Ok so I did some investigating on my own.
I downloaded Oracle SQLDeveloper 2.1 early adopter version from:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/sql_developer/index.h
tml
It was just released last month and has most, if not all, the
accessibility fixes I have been pushing for over the last year or so.
It allows you to do everything you will need as a dba / database
designer/developer.
I will admit, it can be a bit daunting to use at first, but once you get
the hang of it it is pretty simple.
I hope to put together some instructions/videos on using SQLDeveloper
with jaws over the next few weeks and will keep the list posted on my
progress.
The download page on otn has 2 downloads for the windows version. One
includes a jdk the other does not. If you have a jdk 1.6.0_11 or later
already installed and configured with the accessbridge, I would
reccommend that version otherwise you just have to install the
accessbridge into the included jdk as usual.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
>
>
> Don,
>
> I've done some research and found the following link:
> http://jora.luenasoft.de/index_en.html
>
> Would you please let me know if it's the product you've been talking
> about.
>
> Thank you very much,
> Anna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:53 PM
> To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
>
> Anna,
>
> I will try to find the links. the link I have for downloading is
> internal only, so I will need to find the external link.
> I haven't found any good docume ntation about how to use it as yet,
> but I have pinged one of the guys who has been doing a lot of work
> with it to see if he can provide some pointers to external docs as
> well.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:35 AM
> > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> >
> >
> > Hi Don!
> >
> > Is it hard to install this plug-in?
> > If it's basically accessible, I would like to start using it right
> > now.
> > Would you please tell me how to download it, and where to get a
> > quick start guide.
> >
> > Thank you very much,
> > Anna
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:49 PM
> > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> >
> > Anna,
> >
> > No problem.
> > I am trying the plugin that oracle has for eclipse, and so far, it
> > looks pretty accessible.
> > I am just trying to find out what kind of functionality it has in
> > the area of databsae interaction. I opened a connection to my oracle
> > 10g database as system, and have been able to browse through the
> > users and their tables just fine.
> >
> > I selected data -> edit on one of the tables, and while the fields
> > read just fine, I wasn't getting any relationship to the column
> > headers, so will be filing a bug on that soon.
> >
> > I have to confess I am a total novice when it comes to eclipse, so
> > don't know if there are any tricks to making it more accessible as a
> > framework.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:18 PM
> > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > >
> > >
> > > Don,
> > > Thanks for trying!
> > >
> > > Anna
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:14 PM
> > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > >
> > > Anna,
> > >
> > > I downloaded teh trial version of FriendlySql, but it keeps
> > > telling me that I need an internet connection to run it. I
> > > obviously have
> > an internet
> > > connection, so I can't evaluate the software.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:36 AM
> > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don,
> > > >
> > > > I've just found the tool called Friendly Sql, being advertised
> > > > as Oracle database browser and editor.
> > > > It sounds really friendly.
> > > > It's not free of charge, but I would rather spend money,
> > than have a
> > > > constant frustration.
> > > > Please let me know if you've ever heard about it.
> > > > Here is the link:
> > > > http://friendlysql.com/guide.html
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > Anna
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Don Raikes
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:24 PM
> > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > >
> > > > Anna,
> > > >
> > > > No problem. I am going to be checking out a newer oracle product
> > > > which is an extension to eclipse, and if it offers the
> > > > functionality you need, i will let you know since it sounds like
> > > > yo are already familiar with eclipse.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:01 AM
> > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Don,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much, and please let me get back to you when
> > > > > I'm completely stuck.
> > > > > Also please keep me posted on any Oracle new accessible tools
> > > > > and any news regarding accessibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > Anna
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Don Raikes
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:52 PM
> > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > >
> > > > > Anna,
> > > > >
> > > > > No the helpdesk should be able to give you the isql address,
> > > > > then you just access via your browser and you can do anything,
> > > > > I think, you need in sql to interact with the database.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can also maybe google "oracle isql" and see if there is a
> > > > > link to the isql manual online. most of our documentation is
> > > > > available online, but I don't remember the urls for them.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:49 AM
> > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your information is extremely useful.
> > > > > > Please let me double check: after the help desc installs
> > > > > > Oracle database I should keep the url for the isql
> > > > > > application, and then install ISQL myself.
> > > > > > Is it correct?
> > > > > > Is there a quick start guide for ISQL?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > > > Anna
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > Don Raikes
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:39 PM
> > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anna,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Speaking unofficially, depending on the version of the
> > > > > > database you have installed, you may get the isql webclient
> > > > > > installed with
> > > > > it. This is a
> > > > > > web-based sql client which will generate proper html tables
> > > > > > of the data, I believe, although i haven't tried it in
> > > > > > several years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At the end of the database installation, there is a window
> > > > > > that appears that lists the ports for all web-based
> > > > > > administration tools including isql, so have whomever is
> > > > > > doing the install make sure to
> note the url
> > > > > > for the isql
> > > > > > application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, depending on the version of database being installed
> > > > > > the installer will be "fairly" accessible with jaws. I say
> > > > > > fairly because there are, or have been some areas where it
> > > > > > gets a bit tricky to use, but with a little work it is
> > > > > > possible to get it to speak.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *** all views expressed are those of the author and have no
> > > > > bearing on
> > > > > > Oracle's official position on accessibility. ***
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:24 AM
> > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Don!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you mean that command line tool is the only
> interactive
> > > > > > > tool in Oracle?
> > > > > > > Then how to work productively without being able to
> > associate
> > > > > > > the data with
> > > > > > > their column names?
> > > > > > > My co-workers use some online tools to manipulate Oracle
> > > > > > > data. Is there any accessible one?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > Anna
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > Don Raikes
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:12 PM
> > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anna,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The sqlplus that ships with the database is a fairly good
> > > > > > > command-line tool.
> > > > > > > It speaks fairly well wit hjaws, however, it has the
> > > > > > > limitations of all command-line tools like need to use the
> > > > > > > jaws cursor
> > to review
> > > > > > > output, and in
> > > > > > > a listing of data no way to associate data columns
> > with their
> > > > > > > headings.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, soon (hopefully within the next couple
> of months),
> > > > > > > JDeveloper 11g
> > > > > > > patchset 1 will be released which will have some real
> > > > > nice database
> > > > > > > management tools included along with a complete java/web
> > > > > development
> > > > > > > environment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I hope to be putting up some tutorials on how to use
> > > > > > > JDeveloper with JAWS soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:39 AM
> > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jim,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JDBC is OK, it's plain Java, I can use Eclipse for it.
> > > > > > > > What about Oracle SQL environment? Is it
> > accessible enough?
> > > > > > > > Is it difficult to write and execute a simple query
> > > to create
> > > > > > > > table and
> > > > > > > > insert data?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > > Anna
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > > Corbett, James
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:21 AM
> > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would take a look at JDBC connections and perhaps the
> > > > > JNDI tree
> > > > > > > > depending upon your web server....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > Anna Giller
> > > > > > > > Sent: October 14, 2009 11:10
> > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Oracle
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Everyone!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I need to learn Java with Oracle database.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm getting Oracle installed on my machine tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would you please give me an idea what to start with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you know a brief accessible tutorial on Oracle SQL?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anna
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