[program-java] Re: Oracle

  • From: Anna Giller <anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:21:04 -0400

Don,

I've done some research and found the following link:
http://jora.luenasoft.de/index_en.html

Would you please let me know if it's the product you've been talking about.

Thank you very much,
Anna

-----Original Message-----
From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:53 PM
To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle

Anna,

I will try to find the links. the link I have for downloading is internal
only, so I will need to find the external link.
I haven't found any good docume ntation about how to use it as yet, but I
have pinged one of the guys who has been doing a lot of work with it to see
if he can provide some pointers to external docs as well.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:35 AM
> To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> 
> 
> Hi Don!
> 
> Is it hard to install this plug-in?
> If it's basically accessible, I would like to start using it 
> right now.
> Would you please tell me how to download it, and where to get 
> a quick start
> guide.
> 
> Thank you very much,
> Anna
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:49 PM
> To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> 
> Anna,
> 
> No problem.
> I am trying the plugin that oracle has for eclipse, and so 
> far, it looks
> pretty accessible.
> I am just trying to find out what kind of functionality it 
> has in the area
> of databsae interaction. I opened a connection to my oracle 
> 10g database as
> system, and have been able to browse through the users and 
> their tables just
> fine.
> 
> I selected data -> edit on one of the tables, and while the 
> fields read just
> fine, I wasn't getting any relationship to the column 
> headers, so will be
> filing a bug on that soon.
> 
> I have to confess I am a total novice when it comes to 
> eclipse, so don't
> know if there are any tricks to making it more accessible as 
> a framework.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:18 PM
> > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > 
> > 
> > Don,
> > Thanks for trying!
> > 
> > Anna
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:14 PM
> > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > 
> > Anna,
> > 
> > I downloaded teh trial version of FriendlySql, but it keeps 
> > telling me that
> > I need an internet connection to run it. I obviously have 
> an internet
> > connection, so I can't evaluate the software.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:36 AM
> > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Don,
> > > 
> > > I've just found the tool called Friendly Sql, being 
> > > advertised as Oracle
> > > database browser and editor.
> > > It sounds really friendly.
> > > It's not free of charge, but I would rather spend money, 
> than have a
> > > constant frustration.
> > > Please let me know if you've ever heard about it. 
> > > Here is the link:
> > > http://friendlysql.com/guide.html
> > > 
> > > Thank you very much,
> > > Anna
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:24 PM
> > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > 
> > > Anna,
> > > 
> > > No problem. I am going to be checking out a newer oracle 
> > > product which is an
> > > extension to eclipse, and if it offers the functionality you 
> > > need, i will
> > > let you know since it sounds like yo are already familiar 
> > > with eclipse.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:01 AM
> > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Don,
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you very much, and please let me get back to you when 
> > > > I'm completely
> > > > stuck.
> > > > Also please keep me posted on any Oracle new accessible tools 
> > > > and any news
> > > > regarding accessibility.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again,
> > > > Anna
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Don Raikes
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:52 PM
> > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > 
> > > > Anna,
> > > > 
> > > > No the helpdesk should be able to give you the isql address, 
> > > > then you just
> > > > access via your browser and you can do anything, I think, you 
> > > > need in sql to
> > > > interact with the database.
> > > > 
> > > > You can also maybe google "oracle isql" and see if there is a 
> > > > link to the
> > > > isql manual online. most of our documentation is available 
> > > > online, but I
> > > > don't remember the urls for them.
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:49 AM
> > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Don,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Your information is extremely useful.
> > > > > Please let me double check: after the help desc installs 
> > > > > Oracle database I
> > > > > should keep the url for the isql application, and then 
> > > > > install ISQL myself.
> > > > > Is it correct?
> > > > > Is there a quick start guide for ISQL?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > > Anna
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> > Don Raikes
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:39 PM
> > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > 
> > > > > Anna,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Speaking unofficially, depending on the version of the 
> > > > > database you have
> > > > > installed, you may get the isql webclient installed with 
> > > > it. This is a
> > > > > web-based sql client which will generate proper html tables 
> > > > > of the data, I
> > > > > believe, although i haven't tried it in several years.
> > > > > 
> > > > > At the end of the database installation, there is a window 
> > > > > that appears that
> > > > > lists the ports for all web-based administration tools 
> > > > > including isql, so
> > > > > have whomever is doing the install make sure to note the url 
> > > > > for the isql
> > > > > application.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, depending on the version of database being installed 
> > > > > the installer
> > > > > will be "fairly" accessible with jaws. I say fairly because 
> > > > > there are, or
> > > > > have been some areas where it gets a bit tricky to use, but 
> > > > > with a little
> > > > > work it is possible to get it to speak.
> > > > > 
> > > > > *** all views expressed are those of the author and have no 
> > > > bearing on
> > > > > Oracle's official position on accessibility. ***
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:24 AM
> > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi Don!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do you mean that command line tool is the only interactive 
> > > > > > tool in Oracle?
> > > > > > Then how to work productively without being able to 
> associate 
> > > > > > the data with
> > > > > > their column names?
> > > > > > My co-workers use some online tools to manipulate Oracle 
> > > > > > data. Is there any
> > > > > > accessible one?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > Anna
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> > > Don Raikes
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:12 PM
> > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anna,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The sqlplus that ships with the database is a fairly good 
> > > > > > command-line tool.
> > > > > > It speaks fairly well wit hjaws, however, it has the 
> > > > > > limitations of all
> > > > > > command-line tools like need to use the jaws cursor 
> to review 
> > > > > > output, and in
> > > > > > a listing of data no way to associate data columns 
> with their 
> > > > > > headings.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > However, soon (hopefully within the next couple of months), 
> > > > > > JDeveloper 11g
> > > > > > patchset 1 will be released which will have some real 
> > > > nice database
> > > > > > management tools included along with a complete java/web 
> > > > development
> > > > > > environment.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I hope to be putting up some tutorials on how to use 
> > > > > > JDeveloper with JAWS
> > > > > > soon.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:39 AM
> > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jim,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > JDBC is OK, it's plain Java, I can use Eclipse for it.
> > > > > > > What about Oracle SQL environment? Is it 
> accessible enough?
> > > > > > > Is it difficult to write and execute a simple query 
> > to create 
> > > > > > > table and
> > > > > > > insert data?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > Anna
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > Corbett, James
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:21 AM
> > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I would take a look at JDBC connections and perhaps the 
> > > > JNDI tree
> > > > > > > depending upon your web server....
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> > > > > Anna Giller
> > > > > > > Sent: October 14, 2009 11:10
> > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Oracle
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi Everyone!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I need to learn Java with Oracle database.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm getting Oracle installed on my machine tomorrow.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Would you please give me an idea what to start with.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Do you know a brief accessible tutorial on Oracle SQL?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you very much,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Anna
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