Jim, How to check if I have this bridge now? If I do have it, when should I download it for upgrade, and where to put it? Thank you, Anna -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:14 AM To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle Anna: The "Bridge" is yet another download from SUN.... J. -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anna Giller Sent: October 16, 2009 09:58 To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle Don, It sounds like a mirakle! How to connect this tool to my Oracle database and how to launch it? Also I'm not quite sure what to do with the Accessibility bridge. I installed JDK only once with somebody's help, and don't remember doing anything with the Accessibility Bridge. Doesn't it get installed automatically? Thank you very much, Anna -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:55 PM To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle Anna, Ok so I did some investigating on my own. I downloaded Oracle SQLDeveloper 2.1 early adopter version from: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/sql_developer/index.h tml It was just released last month and has most, if not all, the accessibility fixes I have been pushing for over the last year or so. It allows you to do everything you will need as a dba / database designer/developer. I will admit, it can be a bit daunting to use at first, but once you get the hang of it it is pretty simple. I hope to put together some instructions/videos on using SQLDeveloper with jaws over the next few weeks and will keep the list posted on my progress. The download page on otn has 2 downloads for the windows version. One includes a jdk the other does not. If you have a jdk 1.6.0_11 or later already installed and configured with the accessbridge, I would reccommend that version otherwise you just have to install the accessbridge into the included jdk as usual. > -----Original Message----- > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:21 AM > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > Don, > > I've done some research and found the following link: > http://jora.luenasoft.de/index_en.html > > Would you please let me know if it's the product you've been talking > about. > > Thank you very much, > Anna > > -----Original Message----- > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:53 PM > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > Anna, > > I will try to find the links. the link I have for downloading is > internal only, so I will need to find the external link. > I haven't found any good docume ntation about how to use it as yet, > but I have pinged one of the guys who has been doing a lot of work > with it to see if he can provide some pointers to external docs as > well. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:35 AM > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > Hi Don! > > > > Is it hard to install this plug-in? > > If it's basically accessible, I would like to start using it right > > now. > > Would you please tell me how to download it, and where to get a > > quick start guide. > > > > Thank you very much, > > Anna > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:49 PM > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > Anna, > > > > No problem. > > I am trying the plugin that oracle has for eclipse, and so far, it > > looks pretty accessible. > > I am just trying to find out what kind of functionality it has in > > the area of databsae interaction. I opened a connection to my oracle > > 10g database as system, and have been able to browse through the > > users and their tables just fine. > > > > I selected data -> edit on one of the tables, and while the fields > > read just fine, I wasn't getting any relationship to the column > > headers, so will be filing a bug on that soon. > > > > I have to confess I am a total novice when it comes to eclipse, so > > don't know if there are any tricks to making it more accessible as a > > framework. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:18 PM > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > Don, > > > Thanks for trying! > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Raikes > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:14 PM > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > I downloaded teh trial version of FriendlySql, but it keeps > > > telling me that I need an internet connection to run it. I > > > obviously have > > an internet > > > connection, so I can't evaluate the software. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:36 AM > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, > > > > > > > > I've just found the tool called Friendly Sql, being advertised > > > > as Oracle database browser and editor. > > > > It sounds really friendly. > > > > It's not free of charge, but I would rather spend money, > > than have a > > > > constant frustration. > > > > Please let me know if you've ever heard about it. > > > > Here is the link: > > > > http://friendlysql.com/guide.html > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Don Raikes > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:24 PM > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > No problem. I am going to be checking out a newer oracle product > > > > which is an extension to eclipse, and if it offers the > > > > functionality you need, i will let you know since it sounds like > > > > yo are already familiar with eclipse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:01 AM > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, and please let me get back to you when > > > > > I'm completely stuck. > > > > > Also please keep me posted on any Oracle new accessible tools > > > > > and any news regarding accessibility. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > Anna > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > Don Raikes > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:52 PM > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > > > No the helpdesk should be able to give you the isql address, > > > > > then you just access via your browser and you can do anything, > > > > > I think, you need in sql to interact with the database. > > > > > > > > > > You can also maybe google "oracle isql" and see if there is a > > > > > link to the isql manual online. most of our documentation is > > > > > available online, but I don't remember the urls for them. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:49 AM > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, > > > > > > > > > > > > Your information is extremely useful. > > > > > > Please let me double check: after the help desc installs > > > > > > Oracle database I should keep the url for the isql > > > > > > application, and then install ISQL myself. > > > > > > Is it correct? > > > > > > Is there a quick start guide for ISQL? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > > Don Raikes > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:39 PM > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking unofficially, depending on the version of the > > > > > > database you have installed, you may get the isql webclient > > > > > > installed with > > > > > it. This is a > > > > > > web-based sql client which will generate proper html tables > > > > > > of the data, I believe, although i haven't tried it in > > > > > > several years. > > > > > > > > > > > > At the end of the database installation, there is a window > > > > > > that appears that lists the ports for all web-based > > > > > > administration tools including isql, so have whomever is > > > > > > doing the install make sure to > note the url > > > > > > for the isql > > > > > > application. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, depending on the version of database being installed > > > > > > the installer will be "fairly" accessible with jaws. I say > > > > > > fairly because there are, or have been some areas where it > > > > > > gets a bit tricky to use, but with a little work it is > > > > > > possible to get it to speak. > > > > > > > > > > > > *** all views expressed are those of the author and have no > > > > > bearing on > > > > > > Oracle's official position on accessibility. *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:24 AM > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Don! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean that command line tool is the only > interactive > > > > > > > tool in Oracle? > > > > > > > Then how to work productively without being able to > > associate > > > > > > > the data with > > > > > > > their column names? > > > > > > > My co-workers use some online tools to manipulate Oracle > > > > > > > data. Is there any accessible one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > > > Don Raikes > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:12 PM > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The sqlplus that ships with the database is a fairly good > > > > > > > command-line tool. > > > > > > > It speaks fairly well wit hjaws, however, it has the > > > > > > > limitations of all command-line tools like need to use the > > > > > > > jaws cursor > > to review > > > > > > > output, and in > > > > > > > a listing of data no way to associate data columns > > with their > > > > > > > headings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, soon (hopefully within the next couple > of months), > > > > > > > JDeveloper 11g > > > > > > > patchset 1 will be released which will have some real > > > > > nice database > > > > > > > management tools included along with a complete java/web > > > > > development > > > > > > > environment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope to be putting up some tutorials on how to use > > > > > > > JDeveloper with JAWS soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Anna Giller [mailto:anna.giller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:39 AM > > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JDBC is OK, it's plain Java, I can use Eclipse for it. > > > > > > > > What about Oracle SQL environment? Is it > > accessible enough? > > > > > > > > Is it difficult to write and execute a simple query > > > to create > > > > > > > > table and > > > > > > > > insert data? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > Corbett, James > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:21 AM > > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Re: Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would take a look at JDBC connections and perhaps the > > > > > JNDI tree > > > > > > > > depending upon your web server.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > > > > > > Anna Giller > > > > > > > > Sent: October 14, 2009 11:10 > > > > > > > > To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > Subject: [program-java] Oracle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to learn Java with Oracle database. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting Oracle installed on my machine tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you please give me an idea what to start with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you know a brief accessible tutorial on Oracle SQL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >