Re: [PCWorks] Burning CDs
- From: David Grossman <dgrossman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:10:43 +0200
Electromagnetic fields do not have to be a problem.
About 20 or 25 years ago, CRTs emitted a great deal of radiation, causing
pregnant mommies who were exposed to the radiation for many hours a day to
spontaneously abort their babies. The fledgling computer giants were
terrified that a wonderful industry with a great future would go belly up
(perhaps I should have used a better expression!) and they were determined
to find a solution. They did - and the resulting and ever-increasing
Scandinavian TCO standards are so stringent today that there is nothing to
worry about. Granted, flat screens largely replaced CRTs today, but that's
not the point - and even flat screens have to comply with TCO standards.
The industry reacted and solved the problem with one kind of radiation
because they had no choice. They proved that with determination it is
possible to practically eliminate the threat of dangerous radiation.
When it comes down to it, electromagnetic fields are just another kind of
radiation. The industry solved the problem with CRTs, and they CAN solve the
problem with solid state media.
It's just an issue of determination and will-power.
David Grossman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pcworks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pcworks-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peter Kaulback
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:53 PM
> To: pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [PCWorks] Burning CDs
>
>
> So am I Clint, which is why I mentioned the interfaces available. If you
> need something portable, be it firewire or usb or e-sata then you can
> use an ssd.
>
> And as you stated below:
> "All those flash drives and media cards are sensitive to electromagnetic
> fields. Get too close to one, and your data is fried. That's why I use
> optical media, and media cards, and HD's. There's solid state HD's out
> now, but I think they are just like memory cards, too sensitive to EM
> fields."
>
> Peter Kaulback
>
> Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin wrote:
> >> As for electromagnetic fields, hard drives
> >> can be affected by them as well.
> >
> > Sure, but we were talking about convenient **portable** storage
> > methods other than optical media. ;-)
> > -Clint
> >
> > God Bless
> > Clint Hamilton, Owner
> > http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
> > http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Kaulback"
> >
> > Solid state drives are used in the enterprise widely, and are
> > common in
> > the new netbooks as well. One prime factor in ssd's is that
> > they are far
> > more shock proof than hdd's, try dropping a hard drive and see
> > how well
> > it works after, do the same drop with an ssd and your data is
> > safe. They
> > have higher average time between failure, near 1,000,000 hours.
> >
> > As for electromagnetic fields, hard drives can be affected by
> > them as
> > well. Put a hdd next to an electric motor and it will be
> > affected as it
> > can slow or stop altogether. The biggest problem I see right
> > now is the
> > price, a 128gb ssd goes for over $400.00. Size for consumers is
> > at about
> > 250 gb, in the enterprise there are 1.5tb and bigger ssd's.
> >
> > Now some great features of ssd's are low power consumption,
> > noiseless
> > operation due to no moving parts, error correction, and they
> > can be
> > encrypted even when removed from their system (laptop or
> > desktop). Plus
> > they have multiple interfaces available: pcmcia, usb, pata,
> > sata, etc.
> >
> > I like the idea of plugging a fast and secure drive into the
> > pcmcia slot
> > my laptop that won't suck power or heat up too much.
> >
> > It all comes down to proper handling, one doesn't leave
> > cd/dvd's laying
> > loose on a desk or the floor, they are kept in cases or folders
> > to
> > protect them. Leave a hard drive loose on a desk or near crt
> > monitors
> > too long and they won't satisfy your needs, so one uses an
> > enclosure of
> > some kind. And you don't leave a memory stick in a usb port all
> > the time
> > through successive reboots (though I have run one through a
> > wash load
> > and it still works flawlessly).
> >
> > Sorry for the long winded rant ;)
> >
> > Peter Kaulback
> >
> > David Grossman wrote:
> >> Actually, I'm very optimistic about the future of solid state
> >> hard drives.
> >> As you wrote in your other email, solid state technology is
> >> not ready for
> >> prime time. That's true. The technology is too new, so there
> >> are bugs in it
> >> now.
> >>
> >> However (and as opposed to CD/DVD technology) the industry is
> >> working on
> >> solid state technology and is trying to improve it. That
> >> should make a great
> >> deal of difference in the future.
> >>
> >> David Grossman
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yeah that's because there's nothing to replace it. All
> >>> those
> >>> flash drives and media cards are sensitive to
> >>> electromagnetic
> >>> fields. Get too close to one, and your data is fried.
> >>> That's
> >>> why I use optical media, and media cards, and HD's. There's
> >>> solid state HD's out now, but I think they are just like
> >>> memory
> >>> cards, too sensitive to EM fields.
> >>> -Clint
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "David Grossman"
> >>>
> >>> Nonetheless, CD/DVD media has withstood the test of time,
> >>> and
> >>> it is still
> >>> very popular. By now, it should have been replaced by
> >>> something
> >>> better - and
> >>> less flaky.
> >>> David Grossman
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