-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Restore Point
- From: "DSWabc" <DSWabc@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:01:33 -0500
Or, you could just run Stephen(?) Gould's CleanUp 4.0. It will remove many
unnecesary files and, if you fail to configure it correctly, a few desirable
files.
Check the groups archives for discussions on this utility. If I recall
correctly, the only real problem was filenames with a tilde (~) at the
beginning or the end. Some program does that with some of its files and
they could be deleted if you don't exclude their directory or disable
checking for filenames with a tilde.
There may have been other filename deletion problems but I don't remember.
I don't disable anything. CleanUp deletes thousands and thousands of files
every time I run it. Over 1GB of space recovered on one occasion.
When you run it the first time it will suggest you run the demo mode. This
will do a real scan and allow you to see every file it would have deleted if
run in normal. It will not delete anything. You will still need to run in
Normal mode.
You can also tell it to not empty the recycle bin. Then if you miss a file
over the next few days you can retrieve it. After a few days empty the
recycle bin to recover that space.
Then after running Chkdsk I would also run defrag.
For Outlook Express:
NOTE: Before proceeding go offline and _stay_ offline until you finish all
of the following steps. Sending or receiving messages while copying or
deleting dbx files or compacting folders could cause considerable PANIC.
NOTE: Read all of my instructions before acting on any of them. It might
be useful to read them twice. Ask questions before you begin.
Go through all of your folders and delete what you don't want and archive
most of the rest. This will make it easier and faster for OE to compact your
folders. See earlier messages from the last few days about OE for more
details. Try compacting again. If you still have problems....
Locate your message store: Search for *.dbx, then open the containing
folder for any one of the results. This _should_ put you in a folder where
_all_ of the search results were found. If any of your search results are
missing from this folder, you have dbx files in more than one location and
you need to figure out why before you proceed.
The message store can also be found at Tools/Options/Maintenance/Store
Folder. Copy and paste the address there into Windows Explorer address bar.
Cancel out of there. Do not select Change or OK.
Return to OE, create temp folders as necessary and move all the messages you
want to keep out of your very large folders. Look at the dbx file size
rather than the number of messages to determine what is "large".
Close OE. Navigate to the message store and COPY (not move) every file to a
safe location. Do not copy, move, delete or do anything else with any dbx
file while Outlook Express is open. Repeat: Do not copy, move, delete or
do anything else with any dbx file while Outlook Express is open.
Go to your store folder and delete the dbx file that corresponds to the
folders you just moved the messages out of. Don't forget to delete the
Deleted Items file also.
Open OE. Stay or go offline. Navigate to the top of your folder tree
(Outlook Express). Compact all folders.
Move messages from temp folders to desired folders and delete (or keep for
next time) the temp folders.
Did you lose a critical folder or message? Don't Panic. You backed up
everything. Simply copy back all files from the safe location to the store
and overwrite existing files. This will put you back to where you were
before you deleted any dbx files.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "GMan" <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:33 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Restore Point
> Sounds like somebody missed 'snack time'. ;O}
>
> I'm sorry. I don't mean to poke fun. It's only that I hear from SO many
> users who feel this way all the time. It's the reason I refer to them as
> infernal contraptions (the computers, not the users). Still, let's see if
> we can't force Winders to see things your way a bit more.
>
> First, I suspect you have a TON of old temporary files lying around and
> mucking up the works. When one of these old worthless files becomes
> corrupted, it can knock out any process that uses a file by that name
> (since
> your temp folder is one of the places that Windows looks for running files
> before fetching a fresh copy form the app itself). You'll probably have
> to
> do a little digging to get to the right folders, but the end result is SO
> worth the effort. You may also need to tell Windows to show all 'Hidden'
> files & folders before you'll see these. (Control Panel > Folder Options
> >
> View. then check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide
> protected operating system files"). When you're all done, you have the
> option of rehiding these things and I strongly recommend that only if you
> are not the only one using your system (especially if young kids are
> involved).
>
> After you've deleted as much of the muck as possible, empty the Recycle
> Bin to reclaim the space they were hogging. The primary default location
> for the Temp folder is below. Of course, you'll have to sub your own
> username for mine and you'll have to change the drive letter if your
> Windows
> installation resides on a different drive than C:\.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\GMan\Local Settings\Temp
>
> If there is more than one user set up on your system, you should go in and
> empty out the other user's Temp folders as well (if your user account has
> Admin status)
>
> Windows itself uses a separate folder for its own temp files located at:
>
> C:\WINDOWS\Temp
>
> BOTH of these locations need to be cleared out occasionally, with the
> frequency determined by how much you use your system. If Windows balks at
> deleting a file in one of these locations, it just means that the file is
> currently being used by a process. Click OK and select all of the files
> other than the one it won't release. You may have to repeat this numerous
> times before the files that can be deleted are all gone.
>
>
> Next, run CHKDSK with ALL of the trimmings (there's only two options,
> but you'll want to check both of them). Open up My Computer and Right
> click
> on the C:\ drive (or whichever other drive you might want to scan).
> Select
> Properties from the context menu and then click on the Tools tab to expose
> the primary utilities for that particular drive. Click on the "Check Now"
> button to fire up CHKDSK and place a check next to BOTH options. The
> first
> one tells it to automatically fix any file problems it finds while the
> second box tells it to also perform a surface check of the hard drive.
> When
> you click OK, it will tell you that it cannot run CHKDSK because the drive
> is currently in use. It will also ask you if you'd like to schedule a
> scan
> to run on the next boot. Select Yes and then OK your way back to My
> Computer. Close Explorer and reboot and you'll get to actually see CHKDSK
> do its thing. Depending on the size of the drive, it may take a while to
> complete, so I suggest running it right before you're ready to head off to
> bed. Just turn off the monitor and let it run overnight. Unless there
> are
> other problems hindering this computer, you 'should' have a much better
> performing system in the morning. :O)
>
> Peace,
> GMan
> http://reddit.com
> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glo" <redowl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:11 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Restore Point
>
>
>> When I couldn't restore I ran a defrag, which the computer said I didn't
>> need and which is why I've never defragged in just about a year! It
>> took hours on end, but finally completed. I wanted to run CHKDSK first,
>> but couldn't find it (WME 2005, XP SP2). Is a full surface scan the
>> same scan that AVG runs every night? How would I know if anything is
>> corrupted? And how do I run CHKDSK? I'm asking all these questions
>> because my computer has been acting weird lately, running VERY slow and
>> hanging a lot between folders in OE. So between trying to set a restore
>> point, trying to find the store folder and figure out what to do there,
>> and trying to compact my folders (and not being able to do any of this
>> stuff), I'm about to throw this whole machine out the window! ~Glo
>
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