I seemed to have a few very necessary losses with one version. Then the next time it updated I had the option of not using several choices so as not to loose those things I needed...wahlLAH........ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi Beach" <sandib2@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Restore Point I have used Stephen Gould's CleanUp for years and it does a great job. I did hang on to Vers. 3.1.2.0 though as I was a little intimidated by Vers. 4 after losing the system information file and having to restore it. I know it is greatly improved and is excellent for the advanced user but the older version is good enough for me and I feel safer. Just my 2 cents worth. Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "DSWabc" <DSWabc@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:01 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Restore Point > Or, you could just run Stephen(?) Gould's CleanUp 4.0. It will remove > many > unnecesary files and, if you fail to configure it correctly, a few > desirable > files. > > Check the groups archives for discussions on this utility. If I recall > correctly, the only real problem was filenames with a tilde (~) at the > beginning or the end. Some program does that with some of its files and > they could be deleted if you don't exclude their directory or disable > checking for filenames with a tilde. > > There may have been other filename deletion problems but I don't remember. > I don't disable anything. CleanUp deletes thousands and thousands of > files > every time I run it. Over 1GB of space recovered on one occasion. > > When you run it the first time it will suggest you run the demo mode. > This > will do a real scan and allow you to see every file it would have deleted > if > run in normal. It will not delete anything. You will still need to run > in > Normal mode. > > You can also tell it to not empty the recycle bin. Then if you miss a > file > over the next few days you can retrieve it. After a few days empty the > recycle bin to recover that space. > > Then after running Chkdsk I would also run defrag. > > For Outlook Express: > > NOTE: Before proceeding go offline and _stay_ offline until you finish > all > of the following steps. Sending or receiving messages while copying or > deleting dbx files or compacting folders could cause considerable PANIC. > > NOTE: Read all of my instructions before acting on any of them. It might > be useful to read them twice. Ask questions before you begin. > > Go through all of your folders and delete what you don't want and archive > most of the rest. This will make it easier and faster for OE to compact > your > folders. See earlier messages from the last few days about OE for more > details. Try compacting again. If you still have problems.... > > Locate your message store: Search for *.dbx, then open the containing > folder for any one of the results. This _should_ put you in a folder > where > _all_ of the search results were found. If any of your search results are > missing from this folder, you have dbx files in more than one location and > you need to figure out why before you proceed. > > The message store can also be found at Tools/Options/Maintenance/Store > Folder. Copy and paste the address there into Windows Explorer address > bar. > Cancel out of there. Do not select Change or OK. > > Return to OE, create temp folders as necessary and move all the messages > you > want to keep out of your very large folders. Look at the dbx file size > rather than the number of messages to determine what is "large". > > Close OE. Navigate to the message store and COPY (not move) every file to > a > safe location. Do not copy, move, delete or do anything else with any dbx > file while Outlook Express is open. Repeat: Do not copy, move, delete or > do anything else with any dbx file while Outlook Express is open. > > Go to your store folder and delete the dbx file that corresponds to the > folders you just moved the messages out of. Don't forget to delete the > Deleted Items file also. > > Open OE. Stay or go offline. Navigate to the top of your folder tree > (Outlook Express). Compact all folders. > > Move messages from temp folders to desired folders and delete (or keep for > next time) the temp folders. > > Did you lose a critical folder or message? Don't Panic. You backed up > everything. Simply copy back all files from the safe location to the > store > and overwrite existing files. This will put you back to where you were > before you deleted any dbx files. > > Don --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. 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