-- But, regarding the OP's original question "Why is Oracle unaffordable?" we must remember it is customers who drive the price up, not Oracle. I hope that last line was in Jest because I , for one, never once asked Oracle to raise their prices. ________________________________ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Klock Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:54 PM To: jobmiller@xxxxxxxxx Cc: passionate_programmer@xxxxxxxxxxx; dbvision@xxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; William.Blanchard@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Why is Oracle unaffordable? On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Job Miller <jobmiller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: This discussion keeps coming back to the Oracle Database, but I thought the OP was asking about the Oracle Berkeley DB as an embedded DB. Did we get off track? <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/berkeleydb/overview/index.ht ml> Fair point. I have zero experience with Berkeley DB so I've stayed out of the fray. But I do have experience with Oracle's "embedded" license structure and depending on the application and how embedded the database actually is, Oracle offers up to an 80% discount on the price. Not bad. But, regarding the OP's original question "Why is Oracle unaffordable?" we must remember it is customers who drive the price up, not Oracle. This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.