So, another clarification - we're doing doing a PING either. We're doing a TNSPING. And it is actually being used - not in a super secret way - if you mouse over the connection label in the tree you'll see a 'Last Ping: XXX ms' if the listener was able to respond, e.g. db is up. So some help here - what is 'bad' about this behavior? Thanks everyone, Jeff Smith Product Manager, Oracle SQL Developer On 4/3/2013 1:02 PM, Andrew Kerber wrote: > And it is still a terrible idea. For one thing, most security > standards require that ping response to be turned off for internal > servers anyway, so no response means nothing If it is doing tnsping, > you are also talking to the listenrs. > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Jeff Smith <jeff.d.smith@xxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:jeff.d.smith@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > Sorry, horrible wording. > > To clarify, we're only pinging the server defined in the connection. > We're not actually connecting or measuring connection times. > > Jeff > > On 4/3/2013 12:10 PM, Jeff Smith wrote: > > y thought is that we should collect that on CONNECT time, not > for all > > connections defined in the tool at startup time, as you have > noticed. > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > > > > -- > Andrew W. Kerber > > 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.' -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l