All of the discussion raises good points regarding when (and when not) to remove the needle. But the initial inquiry brings up 2 bigger issues: 1) when to pick your battles, and 2) how to keep a problem you can control from escalating. If the institution is one you work in exclusively, you should definitely have some say as to how the injection procedure is run. However, the nursing staff will probably have the FINAL say. You have made your case. You can try making your case to the physicians and let THEM order the nurses. But, if you are unable to persuade the MD's to pull rank, you need to let it go. You then work on solving the part of the problem that affects you directly: keeping the patient from pulling out of the headrest when the needle comes out. And the solution to that problem is, of course, fairly simple - communicate with the patient. Warn the patient that the needle will come out right after the injection, but to remember that the pictures are continuing. This will work on all but the most difficult patients, and they will be pulling their head out anyway. I walk my patients through the testing like an airline pilot: calm, cheerful, unflustered, in control. I also tell first timers what to expect from each phase of the test; i.e., that the light will seem brighter when we switch eyes, that they will see colors for several minutes after each series, etc. I work with multiple nurses in multiple offices. I don't agree with all of their methods, but once I have given my opinion there is nothing else I can do. Since the responsibility for the injection and subsequent management belong to the injector, you just gotta let it go. Be aware that patients will pick up on any bad vibes in the room. It is a known medical fact that the only people more rigid than ophthalmic photographers are nurses. Good Luck, Marty Rothenberg Chief, Operations Angiographics, Inc