So, I am to be led to believe that you suppositions are better than my frequency searches? On what planet? First, few people know how to do real frequency searches. After much trial and error, I figured out more than 20 years ago, you do it backwards: you show the INTERFERENCE area created by each station, and you look into the white areas. Most people do it stupidly, or forwards: can I apply for channel x through y here? I'll bet you $1,000 that you cannot find a useable frequency (in other words, at a buildable site) in Santa Barbara. Hint: I've actually done the field and leg work, and finding a frequency is the EASY part! Second hint: these people already had a site. Then, when you start playing off "population served" versus the available (few) buildable sites, the situation becomes clearer. Something else: the interference rules were changed (loosened) when the FCC adopted the DTV r&o and the LPTV Class A upgrade window. In NYC, the problem was not the lack of useable sites. It probably had more to do with "I don't want to run a TV station on three different channels." Funny how you don't seem to understand these considerations; I guess it's just too much detail for you. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:46 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Transition Begins? > NYC where I have watched as a friend discovered and took advantage of > three "frequencies" that had been combed over for years by many others > who found nothing. He now has those three frequencies that cover most of > the city as LPTV stations. > > You may be right and there are no possibilities in Santa Barbara. I am > sure they looked but I wouldn't be surprised if there is something there. > > Also this station didn't make any decision in the early 1990's, they > didn't exist then. They were granted a construction permit for channel > 55 on March 17th 2005. That is more than a year after Qualcomm won that > channel at auction and they have been quite vocal that they intended to > do something with it as soon as possible. > > If they could not find something in the core to move to why bother with > 55 at all? Or second best find something unowned above the core. That > way they might have a few years. > > One other question. You say with a few frequency searches you eliminated > any possible station they could have moved to. But 55 must have been > available since they did find that one. > > And my friend who discovered those LPTV stations in NYC didn't do it > with a few frequency searches. It took him years of looking and fiddling > as far as I could see. > > Bob Miller > > > > > John Willkie wrote: > > >Having done a few frequency searches in the Santa Barbara area (and finding > >no channels available at ANY site in the early 1990's) the answer is easy: > >there were no other better choices. > > > >Exactly what world do you live in? > > > >John Willkie > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 2:07 PM > >Subject: [opendtv] Transition Begins? > > > > > > > > > >>I have been told that Qualcomm is forcing an LPTV station #55 off the > >>air in Santa Barbara. If so I think this would be the first shot in the > >>coming transition. Why this station, K46GC, moved from a core channel, > >>46, to an out of core channel, 55, is beyond me. Especially since this > >>channel 55 has already been sold to Qualcomm. > >> > >>Bob Miller > >> > >> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >> > >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > >> > >> > >FreeLists.org > > > > > >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > >> > >> > >unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.