Bob Miller wrote: >> I don't know about NYC, but it would certainly be no big >> shakes for a store in the Washington area to install an >> outdoor antenna and feed their display DTVs. In fact, they >> used to do this at first, in the bad old days of 1st gen >> receivers. > > And they gave it up because later generations of receivers > were not as good as those first gen ones?? Since you know very well that's not the reason, there must be another reason. > Maybe you can explain to me why the US is so different > than the rest of the world. If both 8-VSB and COFDM > receivers are the same market wise what makes every country > that has COFDM and are going bonkers selling COFDM > receivers so different than us? That's the question. Your answer to everything is "COFDM," but it seems ever more obvious that modulation isn't the issue at all. > Why don't you ask LG? They are still happily selling stand > alone COFDM receivers in OZ while still not selling stand > alone 8-VSB receivers in the US. They should have all the > answers. You asked, right? And they didn't give you any sensible answer. LG sells 5th gen STBs if they have a DBS receiver too, but not without DBS. They sell an ATSC-only STB and also ATSC-only PVR, but not 5th gen. So by what twist of logic do you conclude that COFDM would make a difference? If they seem willing to market only obsolescent products in ATSC-only livery, when they market their good stuff at large discounts only when associated with a subscription service, it seems to me that this same behavior would exist no matter what the modulation scheme. I'm ever more amazed by your religious zeal. > Soon?? When exactly are they going to become a commodity? I can give you an exact date: March 2007. > I saw an infomercial on cable today selling a 20" or so > LCD and informing the public at least five times in five > minutes that this did not have an HD tuner, didn't need > one because all you have to do is hook it up to cable and > satellite. Save money they kept saying and don't waste it > on an OTA tuner. I expect that will become a mantra in > all retail outlets over the next year or so. And this proves what, exactly? That they couldn't say precisely the same thing about COFDM? Weird. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.