Didn't foreclose any changes to DVB-T to make it more compatible with the US nor am I married to DVB-T and would welcome anything that worked based on COFDM or even 8-VSB. But it has been true for the last six years at least the we would have been better off taking whatever DVB-T had to offer and making it work in the US. That is after all what we are doing now but trying to do it within the straight-jacket of 8-VSB and legacy receivers. And that has been true for every minute of the last six years including today. The best thing we could do today would be to switch to a COFDM based modulation and MPEG4 IMO. After all how long must we stick with any modulation? Is there a set number of years before we can transition again? Do we have to wait fifty years because of some convention? As to the "operating fundamentals or realities of U.S. broadcasting" they are a changin in more ways than one. They better look to having the best tools at least. They sure don't now. The ATSC is considering "fixing" 8-VSB even TODAY to make it more DVB-T/H like. It would be easier to switch. Bob Miller John Willkie wrote: >If Bob Miller were not 1) a resident of the US or 2) not married to the idea >of DVB at any cost in the US, we WOULD not have these non-sensical posts. > >DVB-T was created without any regard for the needs, desires, operating >fundamentals or realities of U.S. broadcasting, and commercial broadcasting in >general. To say that it would have been adopted in the U.S. IN ANY form is to >say "John Kerry is President of the United States and everything is fine, >especially with vice president Osama bin Laden." > >COFDM is another matter, but this is bob vainly trying to get the upper hand >by going downstream to DVB-T. Australia -- with several commercial >broadcasters -- had to get significant changes in the DVB spec before it was >usable there. > >John Willkie > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Miller >>Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:29 PM >>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Toward digital TV >> >>If broadcasters were not married to must carry there would be >>no 8-VSB modulation in the US and we WOULD have adopted DVB-T. >> >>None of these issues would be discussed at all. >> >>Bob Miller >> >>Manfredi, Albert E wrote: >> >><snipped> >> >> >> >>>I'd find this so blatantly anti-competitive that I'm wondering why >>>we've been debating about must-carry or the effect of >>> >>> >>adopting DVB-T. >> >> >>>These other factors would fade into insignificance if the >>> >>> >>market were >> >> >>>so badly skewed. >>> >>>By the way, my brother reports that it's easy to find DVB-T STBs for >>>sale in Rome, even though DTT there is not quite fully deployed yet. >>>Not all multiplexes are being transmitted by each translator >>> >>> >>site as of >> >> >>>now. >>> >>>Here's another little tid bit. I was at Myer Emco last >>> >>> >>Saturday. These >> >> >>>are relatively high end audio/video stores. >>>I asked whether they carried any ATSC STBs. >>> >>>Bert >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.