Dale Kelly wrote: >> Except that the CEA doesn't see those "sign up" bonuses >> either, do they? If anything, the NCTA, right? > > Your equation leaves out the retailer, who does receive > the Cable/Satellite kick back and who is the also the CEA > members sole customer. Yes, you have a point. Although what Mark Aitken said yesterday, assuming I understand it correctly, is even more troubling: Mark Aitken wrote: > I know that when a sale is made to Satellite, there is a > "pop" for the signing party. In some cases, there is a > continuing "residual". If you want OTA DTV anymore (with > just a few exceptions), you have to be a "paying member" > of someones. Does this mean that CE manufacturers are encouraged not to build anything for OTA use, because they can generate an infinite revenue stream for each sale if they can coerce people to get suckered into a subscription service? I'd find this so blatantly anti-competitive that I'm wondering why we've been debating about must-carry or the effect of adopting DVB-T. These other factors would fade into insignificance if the market were so badly skewed. By the way, my brother reports that it's easy to find DVB-T STBs for sale in Rome, even though DTT there is not quite fully deployed yet. Not all multiplexes are being transmitted by each translator site as of now. Here's another little tid bit. I was at Myer Emco last Saturday. These are relatively high end audio/video stores. I asked whether they carried any ATSC STBs. "No, we don't," he said. "How come?" "Because DTV receivers are built into all TV sets. If you bought a TV in the past 10 years, it will have the DTV receiver built-in already." Gosh, I guess I've been watching HDTV all along, thinking it was NTSC. The image quality sucks. No wonder people are switching to cable. Unbelievable. And to make matters even worse, I noticed a customer listening intently to one of the "experts" while I was there, and TAKING NOTES! Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.