Bert, I ask again, who is the "we" that you claim p*ssed away all this time, and over what indecision? Your old refrain is that broadcasters failed to get into the receiver manufacturing business so it is they who p*ssed away the time, right? John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.