[opendtv] Re: TV Technology:

From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 02:45:47 +0000

Craig Birkmaier wrote:

So you can stop right there. As long as the spectrum is segregated
that way, among the different cellcos, it will be used in ways that
benefit those who paid the exorbitant fees, and not in ways that
benefit the consumer.

This is irrelevant to the discussion. The fact is that most premium
phones today work with any U.S. carrier.

Sorry, Craig, you're veering off topic again. First off, what you say is
disingenuous. Your phone will only work as your provider wants it to. More
importantly, the "topic" is about egregious waste of spectrum, by the very
industry that claims it has to grab OTA TV spectrum. It's called "hypocrisy."

Sorry, the telcos are not stupid, and they know what usage patterns look
like in the markets they serve,

It's unbelievable the way you insist on denying the obvious, Craig. With
segregated spectrum, no matter how smart they are in determining their own peak
demand requirements, overall use of cellular spectrum cannot help but be
greater than it would be, if spectrum were shared seamlessly. This is hardly
debatable. You need to sit down without that background racket, and
concentrate. The ratio of users, in each cell, from each cellco, varies all the
time. Even during peak periods, Craig. Each cellco has to individually
accommodate its OWN worst case. Think it through. Fewer words, more thought.

We have multiple services in the TV spectrum; there are full power
stations, stations with highly restricted transmission masks so that
they can be dropped into areas where spectrum is scarce,

And every TV set out there can tune to any of these, if the signal strength
reaches the marginal minimum. LG sets and Samsung sets can tune to exactly the
same channels, right out of the box, Craig. No one is crippling them. The same
content does NOT need to be repeated using multiple different OTA standards, or
on multiple different frequency channels, just to cover all users of that one
market.

Yet there are no similar tuner mandates for radio;

Already covered that. The initial service on the medium is the only game in
town. So if you want a radio, you have to use that initial standard (analog AM
and FM). The bigger problem comes when the standard needs to be updated. We're
still using IPv4 far, far more than IPv6, even though IPv6 has been potentially
available for more than 20 years.

For the past few weeks you have been an "activist," coming to the
aid of the odor folks who will need to upgrade their ATSC 1.0 TVs.

Craig seems lost again. People needing to switch over will of course be
annoyed. Simulcasting, to meet two standards simultaneously, will of course be
a waste of spectrum. The new services possible with ATSC 3.0, **that will
actually be in demand**, and that are not possible with ATSC 1.0, are highly
debatable. We already covered that.

Bert

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