[opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless networks
- From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:08:38 -0400
Mark -
That should do it. Just ordered one.
Thank you.
- Tom
Mark Schubin wrote:
> Here:
> http://store.weatherbug.com/plus/ProductPage.aspx?ProductID=VEC-STRM-0805
>
> TTFN,
> Mark
>
>
> Tom Barry wrote:
>
>
>>Anyone aware of wind up portable TV's (digital or otherwise)? After
>>this thread I went looking and couldn't find one. It seems a useful
>>thing to have here in Florida.
>>
>>- Tom
>>
>>John Willkie wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>When such TVs appear (maybe we should forward this to CCrane and Bayjin) and
>>>are adopted widespread, there will be an argument for tv during disasters of
>>>this type.
>>>
>>>I've been thinking of a disaster plan -- unwritten at this point -- for my
>>>family, commensurate with the risks in So Cal. I've told my mother she
>>>should have at least two weeks of water on hand, and she needs to have spare
>>>batteries for the portable radio.
>>>
>>>I'm going to do my own "plan" in Tijuana. Much different needs there.
>>>
>>>Meet points is a good idea. If I were to write such a plan, however, I
>>>doubt anyone would read it until after a disaster.
>>>
>>>John Willkie
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Stephen W. Long" <longsw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:55 AM
>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless networks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why do you need batteries for an emergency radio - I have purchased
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>several
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>of the "windup" radios. Keep one in the house, one in the RV, one in the
>>>>SUV. You wind-up the radio for 2 minutes, it lasts for 40. There is not
>>>>much reason why one could not have a windup small LCD TV. If you were
>>>>clever, the digital device would have an USB port to download data to a
>>>>laptop computer.
>>>>
>>>>I have always heard that in hurricane regions, it has always been the case
>>>>that you should have at least 3 days of water, food, and 30 days of
>>>>medicine. Post 9-11, my family has a detailed WRITTEN emergency plan for
>>>>our household - weeks of food and water, water purification, LOTS of
>>>>batteries. I also installed a back-up generator, large enough to keep the
>>>>fridge/freezer and the furnace running. We also have "get together"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>points
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>pre-planned. If we get separated and are out of touch for 24/48/week time
>>>>frames, we know to meet at certain geographical locations.
>>>>
>>>>The true government failure in this disaster was the failure to get all of
>>>>those school buses out of storage, collecting people, and getting them out
>>>>of town.
>>>>
>>>>My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my
>>>>employee.
>>>>
>>>>At 04:29 PM 9/10/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Nat;
>>>>>
>>>>>All the world looks likes nails, when you're a hammer.
>>>>>
>>>>>Battery operated satellite receivers would seem to be a work-around, or
>>>>>those mobile sat receivers in Escalades come to mind.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, a Hurricane in New Orleans means that it's difficult for you in
>>>>>Maryland to watch local TV stations from the scene.
>>>>>
>>>>>People in trouble want long-lasting radio batteries. TV batteries last
>>>>>minutes of use; radio batteries last weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can watch the disaster on your TV. People in New Orleans aren't
>>>>>complaining about no TV; they're complaning about radio batteries, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>cell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>phone service (among communications needs.)
>>>>>
>>>>>John Willkie
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "nat ostroff" <nostroff@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:16 PM
>>>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless networks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If there was ever an example of the value of the analog TV signal in an
>>>>>>emergency we have seen it this week. What will become of TV when it is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>only
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>a cable delivered service with very marginal over the air capability to
>>>>>>poorly designed DTV tuners?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are battery powered "rabbit ear" portable DTV receivcers even in the
>>>>>>pipeline for 2009? Or ever?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nat Ostroff
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Craig Birkmaier" <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:27 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>networks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>At 1:01 PM -0400 9/6/05, John Shutt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Most cell phone towers have battery backup for 24 hours of usage,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>no
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>generator. When you have hundreds of towers, it is not economically
>>>>>>>>attractive to maintain that many generators. That is where a single
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>big
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>stick (or a handful of medium sticks) works to your advantage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If, hypothetically speaking, we had DVB-T in the New Orleans area
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>that
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>included DVB-H, then a single broadcaster, that did have a backup
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>generator
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>at the transmitter site and bunkered fuel for several days, could
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>changed it's mode of transmission to QPSK and reached more
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>receivers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>including hand held cell phones. But eventually the batteries in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>cell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>phone would have run out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But practically speaking, even if the above were true, the most
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>effective
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>mass communications method in New Orleans was radio. Analog radio.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Local
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>analog radio. Sorry XM and Serius.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I do not know the specifics but many of the New Orleans radio
>>>>>>>stations are still off the air. I believe that WWL is operational.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>>Craig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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