[opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless networks
- From: Mark Schubin <tvmark@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:28:00 -0400
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Mark
Tom Barry wrote:
>Anyone aware of wind up portable TV's (digital or otherwise)? After
>this thread I went looking and couldn't find one. It seems a useful
>thing to have here in Florida.
>
>- Tom
>
>John Willkie wrote:
>
>
>>When such TVs appear (maybe we should forward this to CCrane and Bayjin) and
>>are adopted widespread, there will be an argument for tv during disasters of
>>this type.
>>
>>I've been thinking of a disaster plan -- unwritten at this point -- for my
>>family, commensurate with the risks in So Cal. I've told my mother she
>>should have at least two weeks of water on hand, and she needs to have spare
>>batteries for the portable radio.
>>
>>I'm going to do my own "plan" in Tijuana. Much different needs there.
>>
>>Meet points is a good idea. If I were to write such a plan, however, I
>>doubt anyone would read it until after a disaster.
>>
>>John Willkie
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Stephen W. Long" <longsw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:55 AM
>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless networks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Why do you need batteries for an emergency radio - I have purchased
>>>
>>>
>>several
>>
>>
>>
>>>of the "windup" radios. Keep one in the house, one in the RV, one in the
>>>SUV. You wind-up the radio for 2 minutes, it lasts for 40. There is not
>>>much reason why one could not have a windup small LCD TV. If you were
>>>clever, the digital device would have an USB port to download data to a
>>>laptop computer.
>>>
>>>I have always heard that in hurricane regions, it has always been the case
>>>that you should have at least 3 days of water, food, and 30 days of
>>>medicine. Post 9-11, my family has a detailed WRITTEN emergency plan for
>>>our household - weeks of food and water, water purification, LOTS of
>>>batteries. I also installed a back-up generator, large enough to keep the
>>>fridge/freezer and the furnace running. We also have "get together"
>>>
>>>
>>points
>>
>>
>>
>>>pre-planned. If we get separated and are out of touch for 24/48/week time
>>>frames, we know to meet at certain geographical locations.
>>>
>>>The true government failure in this disaster was the failure to get all of
>>>those school buses out of storage, collecting people, and getting them out
>>>of town.
>>>
>>>My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my
>>>employee.
>>>
>>>At 04:29 PM 9/10/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Nat;
>>>>
>>>>All the world looks likes nails, when you're a hammer.
>>>>
>>>>Battery operated satellite receivers would seem to be a work-around, or
>>>>those mobile sat receivers in Escalades come to mind.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, a Hurricane in New Orleans means that it's difficult for you in
>>>>Maryland to watch local TV stations from the scene.
>>>>
>>>>People in trouble want long-lasting radio batteries. TV batteries last
>>>>minutes of use; radio batteries last weeks.
>>>>
>>>>You can watch the disaster on your TV. People in New Orleans aren't
>>>>complaining about no TV; they're complaning about radio batteries, and
>>>>
>>>>
>>cell
>>
>>
>>
>>>>phone service (among communications needs.)
>>>>
>>>>John Willkie
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "nat ostroff" <nostroff@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:16 PM
>>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless networks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If there was ever an example of the value of the analog TV signal in an
>>>>>emergency we have seen it this week. What will become of TV when it is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>only
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a cable delivered service with very marginal over the air capability to
>>>>>poorly designed DTV tuners?
>>>>>
>>>>>Are battery powered "rabbit ear" portable DTV receivcers even in the
>>>>>pipeline for 2009? Or ever?
>>>>>
>>>>>Nat Ostroff
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Craig Birkmaier" <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:27 PM
>>>>>Subject: [opendtv] Re: Louisiana governor blasts faulty wireless
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>networks
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>At 1:01 PM -0400 9/6/05, John Shutt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Most cell phone towers have battery backup for 24 hours of usage,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>
>>>>no
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>generator. When you have hundreds of towers, it is not economically
>>>>>>>attractive to maintain that many generators. That is where a single
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>big
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>stick (or a handful of medium sticks) works to your advantage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If, hypothetically speaking, we had DVB-T in the New Orleans area
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>included DVB-H, then a single broadcaster, that did have a backup
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>generator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>at the transmitter site and bunkered fuel for several days, could
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>have
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>changed it's mode of transmission to QPSK and reached more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>receivers,
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>including hand held cell phones. But eventually the batteries in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>cell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>phone would have run out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But practically speaking, even if the above were true, the most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>effective
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>mass communications method in New Orleans was radio. Analog radio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>Local
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>analog radio. Sorry XM and Serius.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I do not know the specifics but many of the New Orleans radio
>>>>>>stations are still off the air. I believe that WWL is operational.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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