[modeleng] Re: crb
- From: "Terry Lane" <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:59:12 +1000
I'm still in the dark here, in that I can not see what real protection (for
either party) the CRB report can offer, other than identifying someone who
has been caught before.
Has, for example, a person whose name has not appeared on the list? got some
measure of protection against a false accusation?
> Thanks Tim. As you have visited my office, opposite IDSME, you can vouch
> for the fact that I at least appear to be a solicitor, and the Law Society
> can satisfy any doubting Thomas's.
>
> The purpose of the CRB check is to protect your organisation as much as to
> protect children. It is not compulsory, as far as I am aware, for a Santa
> Special so no concern there. Also if there is no physical contact between
> FC and the children AND children are not left alone with FC at any time
then
> I think you are ok.
>
> As for scouts the real issue is that any adult, leader, helper, or parent
> can potentially end up on their own with a child. Therein lies the
danger.
>
> See http://www.crb.gov.uk/
>
> Peter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Rickard" <the_viffer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:22 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: crb
>
>
> Well Peter C holds himself out as a lawyer: I've not checked with the Law
> Society but if it is a con he has done a good job setting up a firm of
> solicitors as a front. (I also earn my living as a professional litigator
> but not in this field at all).
>
> I think anyone can apply for a CRB check but if you get the right sponsor
> the fee is less or they will pay. There is a CRB website but I don't have
> the URL to hand
>
> >From: "Richard Harvey" <rharvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >Well we are running a santa special and as usual FC doesn't come into
> >contact with any children and has numerous helpers of either sex with him
> >at
> >all times. From a barrack room lawyer point of view I see no issue but do
> >we
> >have a proper lawyer amongst us? I also understand that an individual
> >cannot
> >apply for crb it has to come through some organisation (council, scouts
> >etc)
> >is this correct?
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >Richard
> >
> >Richard Harvey
> >EPOS Systems Manager
> >Exchequer Software Ltd
> >
> >Tel: +44(0)1202 298008
> >DDI:+44(0)1202 204415
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> >rharvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> >Behalf Of Tim Rickard
> >Sent: 18 October 2004 16:23
> >To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [modeleng] Re: crb
> >
> >I've had one done. You might wonder whether you really want to hand over
> >bank account information "to allow the checks to be conducted quicker"
but
> >it is a fairly painless if slightly expensive procedure.
> >
> >My personal but sad rule is not to touch any children apart from my own
and
> >of my very immediate family. Not least following a school trip to the
local
> >church where I am not wholly unknown where the vicar expressed surprise
> >that
> >a little girl (not my own) who I know very well snuggled up to me because
> >the talk was a little long and boring. The FC at my daughters' primary
> >school has an elf for his own protection watching at all times and the
> >children do not sit on his lap. I recommend that you follow that course.
> >
> >Sad there are such rules. Sad that there are people who make them
necessary
> >which expression I do not wholly limit to dirty old men
> >
> > >From: "Richard Harvey" <rharvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Does anyone on the list have experiences with CRB checks, with specific
> > >references to Santa Specials and 'Father Christmas'?
> > >
> > >Kind regards,
> > >Richard
> > >
> > >Richard Harvey
> > >EPOS Systems Manager
> > >Exchequer Software Ltd
> >
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