[modeleng] Re: crb
- From: "Peter J. Cathcart" <peter.cathcart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:56:58 +0100
Tel
The purpose of CRB is to identify criminal convictions so if it was a sex
crime you stop them getting near children. The only possible error (Iwould
hope) is someone with the same name but as dates of birth have to be
supplied as well there should be no problem.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Lane" <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: crb
I'm still in the dark here, in that I can not see what real protection (for
either party) the CRB report can offer, other than identifying someone who
has been caught before.
Has, for example, a person whose name has not appeared on the list? got some
measure of protection against a false accusation?
> Thanks Tim. As you have visited my office, opposite IDSME, you can vouch
> for the fact that I at least appear to be a solicitor, and the Law Society
> can satisfy any doubting Thomas's.
>
> The purpose of the CRB check is to protect your organisation as much as to
> protect children. It is not compulsory, as far as I am aware, for a Santa
> Special so no concern there. Also if there is no physical contact between
> FC and the children AND children are not left alone with FC at any time
then
> I think you are ok.
>
> As for scouts the real issue is that any adult, leader, helper, or parent
> can potentially end up on their own with a child. Therein lies the
danger.
>
> See http://www.crb.gov.uk/
>
> Peter
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Rickard" <the_viffer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:22 AM
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: crb
>
>
> Well Peter C holds himself out as a lawyer: I've not checked with the Law
> Society but if it is a con he has done a good job setting up a firm of
> solicitors as a front. (I also earn my living as a professional litigator
> but not in this field at all).
>
> I think anyone can apply for a CRB check but if you get the right sponsor
> the fee is less or they will pay. There is a CRB website but I don't have
> the URL to hand
>
> >From: "Richard Harvey" <rharvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >Well we are running a santa special and as usual FC doesn't come into
> >contact with any children and has numerous helpers of either sex with him
> >at
> >all times. From a barrack room lawyer point of view I see no issue but do
> >we
> >have a proper lawyer amongst us? I also understand that an individual
> >cannot
> >apply for crb it has to come through some organisation (council, scouts
> >etc)
> >is this correct?
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >Richard
> >
> >Richard Harvey
> >EPOS Systems Manager
> >Exchequer Software Ltd
> >
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >[mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> >Behalf Of Tim Rickard
> >Sent: 18 October 2004 16:23
> >To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [modeleng] Re: crb
> >
> >I've had one done. You might wonder whether you really want to hand over
> >bank account information "to allow the checks to be conducted quicker"
but
> >it is a fairly painless if slightly expensive procedure.
> >
> >My personal but sad rule is not to touch any children apart from my own
and
> >of my very immediate family. Not least following a school trip to the
local
> >church where I am not wholly unknown where the vicar expressed surprise
> >that
> >a little girl (not my own) who I know very well snuggled up to me because
> >the talk was a little long and boring. The FC at my daughters' primary
> >school has an elf for his own protection watching at all times and the
> >children do not sit on his lap. I recommend that you follow that course.
> >
> >Sad there are such rules. Sad that there are people who make them
necessary
> >which expression I do not wholly limit to dirty old men
> >
> > >From: "Richard Harvey" <rharvey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Does anyone on the list have experiences with CRB checks, with specific
> > >references to Santa Specials and 'Father Christmas'?
> > >
> > >Kind regards,
> > >Richard
> > >
> > >Richard Harvey
> > >EPOS Systems Manager
> > >Exchequer Software Ltd
> >
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