Hello, I am new to this site but I understand someone is interested in buying something from Modelworks? All I can say is be very, very careful where your money goes. In my experience their advert saying only a few hand tools needed to put the kit together forgot to mention a fully equipped workshop and the knowledge to use it. I am building one of their loco kits and have had no end of trouble with it. The service I receive from the company is abysmal. They say they build a control model but these are never finished when you go to a show and yet all the kits have supposedly been delivered. I am still waiting for some parts of my last kit from 20 months ago but they still dont know how to make one or two items from it!!!!!! I have recently spoken to two builders of Black 5's after the Donnington show and they are having all sorts of problems, although the rep at the show says all our kits have had good reviews!!!!!!! I don't know which planet he is on but it cannot be earth. One of these persons was at the Modelworks company when someone brought in all his parts and demanded his money back. I have only seen less than half a dozen Winson/Modelworks locos run and each one (including my own) has very been heavily modified. It was no surprise to see Modelworks own loco was THE ONLY ONE that would not run at one of their events, does that tell you something. An example of one of my problems was all three piston rods were so long that the pistons protruded from the end of the cylinders, and by different amounts. Please e-mail me separately for other details if interested. Garry MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.