Bob, I agree that it is possible, certainly in the larger gauges, but I am not so sure that it is ALWAYS desirable. Lets be honest, there are some able-bodied people who should be kept locked in a padded room, for their own and everyone else's safety. When it comes to disabilities, the same applies. However, some disabled people, in a misguided effort to assert their "rights", take on far more than they are capable of. Then they would be only too pleased to sue if something went wrong. I just hope that it is not us model engineers who suffer the resultant adverse publicity. Yes, allow the disabled access where it is possible, and make things as easy as is sensible for them. However, I feel that one should also protect the rest of us from the zealots, and those who press for legislation on every subject under the sun, in an effort to make a universally accessible and 100% safe world. alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.alanstepney.info Model Engineering, Steam Engine, and Railway technical pages. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Logan" <boblogan@xxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:07 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Disability Discrimination Act Hello Ron, and All, I have been pushing a boiled pea, up hill with a pointed stick, as far as Miniature Railways, and wheel chair disabled persons is concerned. I have been plumping for 10¼" or 12¼" gauge Narrow Gauge carriages, for these unfortunate People. Like knocking my head on an anvil, and trying to hear the anvil ring. Why can't these larger railways come under the auspices of the Model Engineering Fraternity? The machining and building are virtually the same, only disadvantage, you can't take it home in the trunk or trailer. In Ozz, a number of clubs have machine shops, to build Locos and Carriages, in 7¼" and 5" gauges. And a couple of clubs in New Zealand do, also. Why not a larger gauge? Bob L. NZ. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.