Ain't it just simply wunnerful? Not only do we share a common basic language, but we must share the same bureaucrats! LOL!! Al Messer --- "Peter J. Cathcart" <peter.cathcart@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Alan > > That is a pretty good summary of the issues. > > Access for the disabled is very much a part of > health and safety generally. > We have combined the two issues. We have a health > and safety committee > which reviews all work carried out on our site and > also periodically walks > the site and chews the cud. One of the committee > members is significantly > disabled which means we get a very good perspective > on disability issues. > > We are facing another issue. We have another member > who is much more > seriously disabled. He can't walk very well and > suffers spasmodic > movements. His speech is extremely difficult to > follow. He has announced > recently that he intends to buy a steam loco to run > on our track. This > disturbed many members, particularly as he got his > driving licence about six > months ago. However it is not an issue. Safety > comes first and it would > not be safe to let him loose on our track. > > Compliance with the Act is going to take most > businesses many years. The > vast majority of buildings throughout the country do > not comply. Billions > will have to be spent over the next 10 to 20 years > to make buildings > compliant. > > By all means take the issue seriously but don't > panic. Most modifications > required, as we have found, are generally easy to > implement. > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alanjstepney" > <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:23 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Disability Discrimination Act > > > On 1st October, the Disability Discrimination Act > came into force. > > I understand that this applies to all clubs and > organisations that allow > entry by the public. > Are clubs aware of this? > Are any doing anything to comply with this Act? > > I suspect that many Model Engineering Societies may > not be aware of it, and > perhaps it would be a good idea to bring it to the > attention of the > committee at YOUR club. > > > Disability does not just mean wheelchair, it means > anybody with a > disability, be it hearing, visual, physical, mental, > {as well as > wheelchair.} > Clubs / company / whatever, need to have assessed > and documented that they > have assessed their property railway and buildings > for disabled access > facilities. You need to be able to demonstrate that > the due diligence and > reasonable assessment has been made. > > if the club / organisation has identified an area > where it could comply, > subject to spending #X, and has applied for a grant > for that amount, (I > gather such grants are available), that is > reasonable evidencs that action > is being taken. > > The act provides a let out that facilities do not > have to be provided if > it is > unreasonable or impractical to do so. The guidance > advice says quite > clearly that not being able to afford to comply it > cannot be seen to be the > case unless all reasonable avenues of funding have > been > investigated. Quite reasonably the law say you > cannot know that it cannot > be afforded if you have not asked anyone else if > they will help you pay for > it. > > It is a legal requirement that all employers > (including of unpaid > volunteers) provide staff training > regarding the treatment of people with disability > and importantly to > understand what counts as disability. Specific > training is appropriate for > all operations including kitchen/clubhouse shop > ticket office > etc. > > I must add that this is only MY view of this Act, > and someone who knows the > Law may have a different opinion. > In any case, it is probably safest to find out > exactly what is required, > rather than fall foul of the law. > > alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > www.alanstepney.info > Model Engineering, Steam Engine, and Railway > technical pages. > > > > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.