[mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
- From: cheri.frazer@xxxxxxxxxx
- To: mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:46:01 -0600
Yes, I do like that.
So I take it there's nobody on the list who is ok with that construction?
One of the folks in the "grammatical shortcut" discussion yesterday was a
writer, and started going off about how editors miss the point that text
is just meant to be understandable, and there's no good reason to be such
sticklers for what's <insert scoff and air quotes> "correct". Oh, the
horror.
The Events folks have invited Jila Ghomeshi to present to us sometime in
the spring and were asking what topics we're interested in. I was
suggesting prescriptivism as a topic; what would everyone else like to
hear about from Jila?
From:
Byron Rempel-Burkholder <brempelburkholder@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
<mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
2012-01-12 10:09 PM
Subject:
[mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
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Or: take out the ?which?:
?Burke tore a vertebral artery, located??
From: mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ben Davies
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:58 PM
To: mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
I thought the exact same thing.
I think using ?a? leaves the door open for interpretation. When I say I
tore a ligament in my ankle, it does not mean it?s the only ligament in my
ankle. It just means I tore one. I could have 100, but that is not the
point of the statement.
If the sentence said ?Burke tore the vertebral artery, which is located??
then it would obviously be incorrect.. J
From: mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of cheri.frazer@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: January-12-12 4:51 PM
To: mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
Grammatically correct, yes. But there are many vertebral arteries, so I
have a problem with the accuracy of saying A vertebral artery which IS
located...
But could just be me being tired and listening to a crazy-making
discussion about "grammatical shortcuts." I need a drink.
From:
Ben Davies <bdavies@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
"mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
2012-01-12 04:36 PM
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[mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
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How is it misleading?
Burke tore a vertebral artery, which is located in the neck and supplies
blood to the brainstem...
Is that grammatically incorrect? To me it is perfectly clear.
From: mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of cheri.frazer@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: January-12-12 4:31 PM
To: mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
I agree with your first point but disagree with sentence #2, which is
misleading. You could say that the one she tore is located... and
supplies... but you couldn't say she tore "a vertebral artery" followed by
"which is located...".
Yes? No?
From:
Ben Davies <bdavies@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
"mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
2012-01-12 04:25 PM
Subject:
[mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
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For the context of the story, it is irrelevant that the body has more than
one vertebral artery..
Burke tore a vertebral artery, which is located ... and supplies ?
Ben
From: mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mea-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Peters Susan
Sent: January-12-12 4:23 PM
To: mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mea] Re: Are you ok with this sentence?
Burke tore one of his vertebral arteries, which are located...
SP
To: mea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mea] Are you ok with this sentence?
From: cheri.frazer@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:32:53 -0600
"Burke tore a vertebral artery, which are located in the neck and supply
blood to the brainstem ? the back part of the brain which controls
consciousness."
(From
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/skiing/story/2012/01/12/sp-burke-skiing-injury.html
)
Would you consider that construction perfectly ok, a colloquialism /
grammatical shortcut, or would you consider it wrong no matter what?
Just curious.
-C.
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