I read the reviews and bought the book some time ago, and started it, but then got off onto something else and haven't finished it yet. Turkey has in the past been considered a bastion of moderation and therefore a legitimate candidate for admission into the EU, but Islamic Fundamentalism has made enormous inroads in that nation. It is depressing to realize that the nation of Ataturk is not much more resistant to Islamic Fundamentalism than any other Islamic nation. In Turkey as in Pakistan, the military is holding the Islamists at bay. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Chilson Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:27 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Victor Hanson in Iraq I would recommend, Lawrence, a book I just finished reading by Pamuk - snow - It won't equal Donal's Equation of people shitting and vomiting but it might give you another variation on your themes of fundamentalist Islam.