LH> No, no. I wasn't presenting a syllogism Nor was Simon, whom you accused (it may well be, wrongly) of committing a logical fallacy -- an accusation you now level against "Leftists" in general. I refer you to the literature on these matters. Judy Evans, Cardiff ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html