[jhb] Re: Not too hot

  • From: "Fred Stopforth" <fredstopforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:43:49 -0000

Just been in touch with Mike,he can manage tomorrow Tues afternoon.OK?  Fred
----- Original Message ----- From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:27 AM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Alas no, as SWMBO has the day off and is threatening to drag me out to look
at cutlery (believe it or not).

The chances of escaping this are less than those of a snowball in hell.

Tuesday to Thursday look good..

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Fred Stopforth
Sent: 27 January 2008 20:24
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Bones, Just been on the phone to Mike to see when he can come on line. His
best chance at the moment is 14:30 tomorrow Monday.Would that be OK with
you?  Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:08 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


A very good point Kevin as it highlights the absolutely essential need
for  clearances to be read back by the pilot (and ATC to listen to
this) so  that  errors are trapped.

Any clearance involving a height or heading should be repeated by the
aircraft so both parties are clear about what is going to happen.

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of 175@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 January 2008 19:55
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Just online at Farnborough, delighted to see Jerry on the apron as I
logged
on. Flightplan to EGNS (home). Winds calm, he was heading for runway 06.

He called up.

Herein I have to apologise, my performance was poor, I suggested a
heading from 06 which should have routed him direct to NORRY, his
first waypoint. Traffic was light but mostly using 27 at Heathrow.

Diamond 068 took off and turned on a heading which kept him out of
EGLL airspace but on a Northerly heading. I should have asked, but as
I didn't confirm any clearance, I watched as he climbed, still
Northbound for another 10 miles, at which point I wondered if my 300
degrees had been heard as 360
degrees and asked.

Jerry accepted "own navigation" and spent some time travelling West to
regain his original flightplan......Sorry.

This only serves to highlight the need for clearance so that both
parties are aware and can follow the flight progress. I'm still trying
to avoid the pregnant pauses over clearances as I look up the lesser
used ISEC's and Fix's...

Once again apologies offered.


G'day







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