[jhb] Re: Not too hot

  • From: "Fred Stopforth" <fredstopforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:48:41 -0000

Sir, Will inform the person referred. 207.
----- Original Message ----- From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:59 AM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Mike did extremely well on his first session in IVAO. Once he gets connected
I would be delighted to have him join us at JHB.

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Fred Stopforth
Sent: 29 January 2008 19:05
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Appreciated your ATC and encouragement to Mike.He enjoyed it enough to
invite himself back next Monday night  and possibly see how things go
elsewhere i.e. to go from one air field to another and how  we cope with
changing radio freq to talk to other ATC's.So once he's set up on internet I

don't think it'll be long  before you'll have to do another introduction
act.  Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:02 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Sounds good.

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Fred Stopforth
Sent: 28 January 2008 12:44
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Just been in touch with Mike,he can manage tomorrow Tues afternoon.OK?
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:27 AM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Alas no, as SWMBO has the day off and is threatening to drag me out
to look at cutlery (believe it or not).

The chances of escaping this are less than those of a snowball in
hell.

Tuesday to Thursday look good..

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Fred Stopforth
Sent: 27 January 2008 20:24
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Bones, Just been on the phone to Mike to see when he can come on
line. His best chance at the moment is 14:30 tomorrow Monday.Would
that be OK with you?  Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "bones" <bones@xxxxxxx>
To: <jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:08 PM
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


A very good point Kevin as it highlights the absolutely essential
need for  clearances to be read back by the pilot (and ATC to listen
to
this) so  that  errors are trapped.

Any clearance involving a height or heading should be repeated by
the aircraft so both parties are clear about what is going to
happen.

bones

-----Original Message-----
From: jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jhb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of 175@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 27 January 2008 19:55
To: jhb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jhb] Re: Not too hot


Just online at Farnborough, delighted to see Jerry on the apron as I
logged on. Flightplan to EGNS (home). Winds calm, he was heading for
runway 06.

He called up.

Herein I have to apologise, my performance was poor, I suggested a
heading from 06 which should have routed him direct to NORRY, his
first waypoint. Traffic was light but mostly using 27 at Heathrow.

Diamond 068 took off and turned on a heading which kept him out of
EGLL airspace but on a Northerly heading. I should have asked, but
as I didn't confirm any clearance, I watched as he climbed, still
Northbound for another 10 miles, at which point I wondered if my 300
degrees had been heard as 360 degrees and asked.

Jerry accepted "own navigation" and spent some time travelling West
to regain his original flightplan......Sorry.

This only serves to highlight the need for clearance so that both
parties are aware and can follow the flight progress. I'm still
trying to avoid the pregnant pauses over clearances as I look up the
lesser used ISEC's and Fix's...

Once again apologies offered.


G'day







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