On 30 Apr, Steve Fryatt <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 30 Apr, Julie wrote in message > <51cbf543f2julie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: <snip> > > My professional curiosity now being thoroughly aroused, I shall have to > > get hold of the technical references for the Iyo and have a look! > What you need is a copy of the Power Supply part of the ATX Specification: > http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/ATX12V_PSDG_2_2_public_br2.pdf Thanks for that! > If you read that document, you'll understand why I keep pointing out that > the "5.06V test" is (as John reiterates above) at best a *guide* for the > *specific* *model* of PSU originally supplied with the Iyonix. Fully > checking that the outputs of an ATX PSU meet spec by hand can take several > days, and even on automated kit able to take several measurements a second > it takes several hours and produces vast amounts of data to sanity check. Of > course there are shortcuts which will be used for post-production testing, > but you need to know about the detailed performance of the specific model of > PSU that you're looking at to be able to use them. > You also need the correct kit, and it's not the kind of thing that even most > engineers would have lying around at home. You're looking for fast edges > and narrow spikes on the output voltages, meaning that a high bandwidth, > correctly calibrated 'scope and probes is essential. A DVM isn't going to > be any use. I've got a scope, and probes. (I also have a logic analyser and other assorted bits and pieces but I don't expect to use those in this exercise. ;-) ) > > Things are obviously a lot more complicated these days. > They have been for a long time: I was helping to design ATX PSUs to an > earlier revision of the above spec in the late '90s, and AFAIK the > requirements weren't cutting-edge even then. You'll be aware of how subdivided and segregated the electronics industry is (not complaining, just saying) and I never had much to do with PSU design. My field was largely digital logic (whose complications are what I was referring to), with a side order of fibre optics. More recently I lost touch with even that when I went over to software, VB, C, and so on. Even *that* is out of date now. I don't know much .NET or C++, for example. And there don't seem to be any catch-up courses available, I've been looking. (OT: WTH is 'Ruby on Rails'??) /rant Julie --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support List-related queries to iyonix-support-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx