me too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. I know about VOIP. I use Vonage. At 12:18 PM 12/24/2007 -0600, you wrote: >skype is the best thing since icq started text im software. skype >never interupts me if i'm busy i just put myself in dnd mode. skype >is basically like a phone on your computer, and voice is often >better than text it actually conveys personality, shows people are >more than a synthetic voice. voip is an amazing and cool technology >and it's where voice communication is going. Marc said once he had a >sip client working on the icon, I plan some time to set up a sip >server and make my icon among all the other things it can do, a cordless >phone. > > >Chris G wrote: >>umm, Skype is VOIP. >>Same as a phone call. >>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:02:52 -0500, "David Poehlman" >><poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>>as far as I'm concerned, they can call or emal me. >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:48 PM >>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>> >>> >>>Hi, >>>then you wouldn't launch it. a lot of businesses use skype to stay in >>>communications with each other. >>>it's a great productivity tool, it's not just for fun. >>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:45:26 -0600, Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>I wouldn't want Skype, either! I don't like to be interrupted when I >>>>am doing something! >>>>At 07:52 AM 12/24/2007 -0500, you wrote: >>>>>For what reason do you not want skype? >>>>> >>>>>I never wrote that you personally had to make out with the feature, I >>>>>just said that I would like it on the device. >>>>> >>>>>For what reason exactly would you not want those features? >>>>> >>>>>On 12/24/07, David Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>I don't. >>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Shane D" <chatter8712@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:37 PM >>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I also want IM and Skype on it. >>>>>> >>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>The Icon does use Linux, but it uses an accessible version of Linux >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>Level Star/APH have developed. For this reason, it doesn't >>>>>work with some >>>>>>>programs such as Skype. We could have someone that knows the Icon >>>>>>>very, >>>>>>>very well try it out. If this was incorporated into the >>>>>>>Icon/Braille+, >>>>>>>they >>>>>>>would have to get read of the music player that already exists, and >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>would require a lot of development, and a lot of confusion for >>>>>>>new users. >>>>>>>This would be a very cool thing to have, though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Matheny >>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:10 PM >>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Why couldn't the mplayer text based Linux media player that is >>>>>>>similar to >>>>>>>Winamp be compiled to work on the Icon? Then you could play >>>>>>>whatever file >>>>>>>format you wanted. >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:01 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And if it could just do power points, spread sheets, and data bases >>>>>>>>for work and school, and ability to listen to videos for fun! >>>>>>>>I agree. This device is already better than the pacmate and the >>>>>>>>Braille Note! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D >>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:48 PM >>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And while we're at it, let's just ask Levelstar to let us search the >>>>>>>>US CIA databases too! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This thing will be the best PDA outside of China! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>And wma! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D >>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:30 PM >>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>True. Maybe someone at levelstar can get in touch with the amazon >>>>>>>>>people. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>While we're at it, let's make it play M4P songs from iTunes! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Katey Glass <kateyglass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>I totally agree having access to Kindle books would be wonderful! >>>>>>>>>>Just not sure if they would work on our Icons. There is a >>>>>>>>>>particular book which is not on Bookshare that is in Kindle format >>>>>>>>>>that I would love >>>>>>>>>to read! >>>>>>>>>>Katey >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are >>>>>>>>>>not going to be around forever. -- GEORGE CARLIN >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Visit MySpace page at: www.myspace.com/katey0968 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Kevin Jones >>>>>>>>>> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:21 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> speaking of amazon, it would be cool if the i con could >>>>>use the new >>>>>>>>>> kindle format the kindle is a new e-book reader from amazon >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>have >>>>>>>>>> 90000 titles I know we have bookshare but there may be things >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>kindle >>>>>>>>>> has bookshare doesnt and e-books are cheaper than real >>>>>books in the >>>>>>>>>> store. The kindle and the e-paper from sony are bringing to the >>>>>>>>sighted >>>>>>>>>> what the roadrunner bookport bookcourier and icon have >>>>>given us for >>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>> decade. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Shane D wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Just use the amazon.com MP3 store from the browser. (Haven't >>>>>>>>>>tried >>>>>>>>it) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > amazonmp3.com >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On 12/22/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> I wish that there was some way to have a music store online, >>>>>>>>>>and we could >>>>>>>>>> >> pay $20 a month and download 50 songs to the Icon or Braille >>>>>>>>>>Plus. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Chase Crispin >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> >> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>>> >> musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:48 PM >>>>>>>>>> >> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> What would be cool is if they had WMA support or iTunes >>>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>>>support in the >>>>>>>>>> >> braille plusses. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:03:50 -0500, Shane D wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> Yeah. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> On 12/20/07, Kevin Jones <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>> no push and release status then a number ye that's the way >>>>>>>>>>to go >>>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>>> >>>> could do it with 1 finger >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> Shane D wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> If you mean hit status once, release, and then press >>>>>>>>>>number, I >>>>>>>>>like >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> it. If you have to hold both, I would hate to do that if >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>bought one. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On 12/20/07, CB <cnoc78@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> I agree. I truly like this idea. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:28 AM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future >>>>>>>>>> update. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> because this is much more efficient the hold-status key >>>>>>>>>>is >>>>>>>>only >>>>>>>>>> >>>> efficient >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> for the top item or 2 and actually status and a number >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>more >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> efficient than even the top item in hold-status mode, >>>>>>>>>>both in >>>>>>>>>key >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> presses and in time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> PAMELA RADER wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why not just use the Mocve Up or Down option and move >>>>>>>>>>the >>>>>>>>items >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>>>> >>>> on >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that menu in the order you want them? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> American Printing House For The Blind >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1839 Frankfort Ave. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Louisville, KY 40206 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx 12/20/07 12:16PM >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like a mode where you could say press status >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>a >>>>>>>>>number >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>> it >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> would give you up to 12 using the star and number keys >>>>>>>>>>pieces of info. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you could press status 2 and it would tell you >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>time >>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> there could be a way of selecting which pieces of >>>>>>>>>> status >>>>>>>>>>info >>>>>>>>>you >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wanted per program and you could move them around. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe >>>>>>>>>pressing >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> status 1 could >>>>>>>>>> >>>> be >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the same as now if you just press status, holding down >>>>>>>>>>status >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> >>>> still >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> behave as it does now. If you really wanted more than >>>>>>>>>> 12 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> selections you could make the number give you the >>>>>>>>>>second >>>>>>>>list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> then you could press status number 3 or something. >>>>>>>>>> What >>>>>>>>>>do the rest of >>>>>>>>>> >> you think? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Irwin Hott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to see an easier way to get the time and >>>>>>>>>>an >>>>>>>>>option >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> time to give seconds. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>> -Shane >>>>>>>>>> >>> Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>>>> >>> CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>>>> >>> AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>>>> >>> Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>-Shane >>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>-Shane >>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/ >>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com >>>>>AIM: inhaddict >>>>>Skype: chatter8712 >>>>Sandy Licht >>>>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14. >>>>For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to >>>>prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. >>>>Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen >>>>to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your >>>>heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring >>>>you back from captivity. >>>> >>> Sandy Licht Jeremiah 29:11 - 14. For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back from captivity.