[icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.

  • From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:13:24 -0500

me too.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.


I know about VOIP.  I use Vonage.
At 12:18 PM 12/24/2007 -0600, you wrote:
>skype is the best thing since icq started text im software. skype
>never interupts me if i'm busy i just put myself in dnd mode. skype
>is basically like a phone on your computer, and voice is often
>better than text it actually conveys personality, shows people are
>more than a synthetic voice. voip is an amazing and cool technology
>and it's where voice communication is going. Marc said once he had a
>sip client working on the icon, I plan some time to set up a sip
>server and make my icon among all the other things it can do, a cordless 
>phone.
>
>
>Chris G wrote:
>>umm, Skype is VOIP.
>>Same as a phone call.
>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 13:02:52 -0500, "David Poehlman"
>><poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>as far as I'm concerned, they can call or emal me.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris G" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:48 PM
>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>then you wouldn't launch it.  a lot of businesses use skype to stay in
>>>communications with each other.
>>>it's a great productivity tool, it's not just for fun.
>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:45:26 -0600, Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I wouldn't want Skype, either!  I don't like to be interrupted when I
>>>>am doing something!
>>>>At 07:52 AM 12/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>>For what reason do you not want skype?
>>>>>
>>>>>I never wrote that you personally had to make out with the feature, I
>>>>>just said that I would like it on the device.
>>>>>
>>>>>For what reason exactly would you not want those features?
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12/24/07, David Poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>I don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Shane D" <chatter8712@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:37 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I also want IM and Skype on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>The Icon does use Linux, but it uses an accessible version of Linux 
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>Level Star/APH have developed.  For this reason, it doesn't
>>>>>work with some
>>>>>>>programs such as Skype.  We could have someone that knows the Icon 
>>>>>>>very,
>>>>>>>very well try it out.  If this was incorporated into the 
>>>>>>>Icon/Braille+,
>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>would have to get read of the music player that already exists, and 
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>would require a lot of development, and a lot of confusion for
>>>>>>>new users.
>>>>>>>This would be a very cool thing to have, though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Matheny
>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:10 PM
>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why couldn't the mplayer text based Linux media player that is
>>>>>>>similar to
>>>>>>>Winamp be compiled to work on the Icon? Then you could play
>>>>>>>whatever file
>>>>>>>format you wanted.
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Chase Crispin" <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 8:01 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And if it could just do power points, spread sheets, and data bases
>>>>>>>>for work and school, and ability to listen to videos for fun!
>>>>>>>>I agree.  This device is already better than the pacmate and the
>>>>>>>>Braille Note!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D
>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:48 PM
>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And while we're at it, let's just ask Levelstar to let us search the
>>>>>>>>US CIA databases too!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This thing will be the best PDA outside of China!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>And wma!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane D
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>True. Maybe someone at levelstar can get in touch with the amazon
>>>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>While we're at it, let's make it play M4P songs from iTunes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 12/23/07, Katey Glass <kateyglass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>I totally agree having access to Kindle books would be wonderful!
>>>>>>>>>>Just  not sure if they would work on our Icons.  There is a
>>>>>>>>>>particular book which is not on Bookshare that is in Kindle format
>>>>>>>>>>that I would love
>>>>>>>>>to read!
>>>>>>>>>>Katey
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are
>>>>>>>>>>not going to be around forever. --  GEORGE CARLIN
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Visit MySpace page at: www.myspace.com/katey0968
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>   From: Kevin Jones
>>>>>>>>>>   To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>   Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>>   Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   speaking of amazon, it would be cool if the i con could
>>>>>use the new
>>>>>>>>>>   kindle format the kindle is a new e-book reader from amazon 
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>   90000 titles I know we have bookshare but there may be things 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>kindle
>>>>>>>>>>   has bookshare doesnt and e-books are cheaper than real
>>>>>books in the
>>>>>>>>>>   store. The kindle and the e-paper from sony are bringing to the
>>>>>>>>sighted
>>>>>>>>>>   what the roadrunner bookport bookcourier and icon have
>>>>>given us for
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>   decade.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Shane D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   > Just use the amazon.com MP3 store from the browser. (Haven't
>>>>>>>>>>tried
>>>>>>>>it)
>>>>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>>>>   > amazonmp3.com
>>>>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>>>>   > On 12/22/07, Chase Crispin <chasec@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   >> I wish that there was some way to have a music store online,
>>>>>>>>>>and we could
>>>>>>>>>>   >> pay $20 a month and download 50 songs to the Icon or Braille
>>>>>>>>>>Plus.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >> Chase Crispin
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>   >> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>   >> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>   >> musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>   >> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>   >> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>   >> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future update.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >> What would be cool is if they had WMA support or iTunes 
>>>>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>>>>>support in the
>>>>>>>>>>   >> braille plusses.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:03:50 -0500, Shane D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> Yeah.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> On 12/20/07, Kevin Jones <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> no push and release status then a number ye that's the way
>>>>>>>>>>to go
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> could do it with 1 finger
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> Shane D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>> If you mean hit status once, release, and then press
>>>>>>>>>>number, I
>>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>> it. If you have to hold both, I would hate to do that if 
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>bought one.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>> On 12/20/07, CB <cnoc78@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>> I agree.  I truly like this idea.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>> From: "Kevin Jones" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:28 AM
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Suggestion for a future 
>>>>>>>>>> update.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>> because this is much more efficient the hold-status key
>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> efficient
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>> for the top item or 2 and actually status and a number 
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>> efficient than even the top item in hold-status mode,
>>>>>>>>>>both in
>>>>>>>>>key
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>> presses and in time.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>> PAMELA RADER wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> Why not just use the Mocve Up or Down option and move
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>items
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> that menu in the order you want them?
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> American Printing House For The Blind
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> 1839 Frankfort Ave.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> Louisville, KY  40206
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> PHONE:  1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>>>> kevin@xxxxxxxxxxx 12/20/07 12:16PM >>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> I would like a mode where you could say press status 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> would give you up to 12 using the star and number keys
>>>>>>>>>>pieces of info.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> Then you could press status 2 and it would tell you 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> there could be a way of selecting which pieces of 
>>>>>>>>>> status
>>>>>>>>>>info
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> wanted per program and you could move them around. 
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>pressing
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> status 1 could
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> the same as now if you just press status, holding down
>>>>>>>>>>status
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> behave as it does now. If you really wanted more than 
>>>>>>>>>> 12
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> selections you could make the number  give you the
>>>>>>>>>>second
>>>>>>>>list
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> then you could press status number 3 or something. 
>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>do the rest of
>>>>>>>>>>   >> you think?
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>> Irwin Hott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>> I would like to see an easier way to get the time and
>>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>option
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>> time to give seconds.
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> --
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> -Shane
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>>>>>   >>> Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >>
>>>>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>-Shane
>>>>>Blog: http://blind-geek.com/blog/
>>>>>CoOwner: http://sjtechzone.com
>>>>>AIM: inhaddict
>>>>>Skype: chatter8712
>>>>Sandy Licht
>>>>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14.
>>>>For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to
>>>>prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
>>>>Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen
>>>>to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your
>>>>heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring
>>>>you back from captivity.
>>>>
>>>

Sandy Licht
Jeremiah 29:11 - 14.
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to
prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen
to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your
heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring
you back from captivity.



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