[icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions

  • From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:18:38 -0500

So if I am ripping a cd that was previously burned for me will it still be identified by the internet database as you suggested? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Esak" <john@xxxxxxxxx> 

To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
Yes, hopefully, the CD should have been tagged properly and wasn't. In some 
very rare instances a CD is not in one of the major CD databases like CDDB
as Terrance noted. But, mostly, they are. I am away from my main place just now, so I can't pull together an exact step by step for you or your friend, but I will next week sometime. It basically means that you want the program 
being used to convert the audio from CD to .mp3 to be aware of one of the
Internet databases *while* it is ripping your songs. I like CDDB, too. In 
most ripping programs there is a setting for Internet CD database, and you
can enter the name there. My guess is that on the songs, and CD's ripped for 
you so far, this field was blank and so the program could not look up the
proper tags. And therefore, unfortunately, you get exactly what you
stated... Track 01, Track 02, etc., and the whole mess goes into Unknown
Artist or the like.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kaye zimpher
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:35 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions

Hi John and list. I have found that if I rip a cd that was previously made
for me such as a cd burnt from a friend's collection, it is not ever tagged 
properly. It usually always goes in to a folder called "unknows artist."
Also the songs show up as "track 1 and track 2" respectively. I would love
to have help solving this problem if in fact what you are saying is that the 

cd once ripped should have song titles and such.
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Esak" <john@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:41 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions



Hello all,

I want to respond to Stacey's comment about having to tag music first
before
putting it on the Icon or Braile Plus.  The tagging of music files should
never be a problem since in most instances it is done automatically for
you
by whatever conversion program you use to create the .mp3 file in the
first
place. Meaning, if you have a CD that you are converting songs from, when 
the conversion to .mp3 is done, the tagging is automatically accomplished
as
well. This is true assuming your computer is properly set up to retrieve
data from one of the Internet CD services. In many/most cases this setup
is
performed automatically by the conversion software you use. May I suggest
Nero to anyone who does not currently have a program for making CD's or
converting CD's to .mp3's, it is thoroughly accessible down to every
feature
and fucntion.  Most downloading programs also will tag the song as it is
downloading it, (even iTunes which is, of course, the most completely
useless piece of badly written software ever produced. It is thoroughly
inaccessible in every rspect.(And this from a company making hundreds of
millions possibly even billions of dollars on people's desire to buy and
hear music, videos, podcasts, etc. They should be ashamed of themselves... and maybe even government sanctioned until they get on the ethical *human* bandwagon.) Anyway, sorry, jumped onto a big bug-a-boo I have about that. 
The point I want to make is if you are struglling to add tags to your
music
just so you can put it on the Icon, maybe we can help you get to a
situation
where it is an automatic thing like it is for 99% of the music lovers out
there. You shouldn't ever have to tag a son.

Another good fully accessible program is ADMconverter ... but I'll find
some
exact names and links in the next week or so and put them up.

Heck,  with the upcoming release of the next version from LevelStar and
APH,
moving music files to the Icon is going to be so easy... that you wiull
not
want to have to waste your time *taggint* your stuff.

John Esak



-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of stacey robinson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:27 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions


Hi Robert,
Yes, deleting podcasts right from rss would be great.   I also hope the
audio player is improved.  I would like to be able to put music without
having to tag it first.

Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
In Tennessee.
staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert DeYoung" <deyoungr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:59 AM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions


I agree.  I like how easy it is to check for and download podcasts on the
braille+.  I look forward to some additional features with RSS in future
updates.  for example, I would like to be able to delete old podcasts
right
from the rss program.  Also, I hope that improvements in the audio player
(we heard about in the recent demonstration of audible and nls access
podcast) will apply to listening to podcasts.  I expect they will.  And
finally, I hope the features of the web browser will apply to reading rss
text articles.  the braille+ has so many things going for it from my
perspective.  Size, easy of use and range of features are high on the
list.

Robert




"stacey robinson" <staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2/16/2008 8:41 AM >>>

Hi Paul,
One of the things I love about the Braille Plus is how well the RSS reader 
handles podcasts.  I tried a pod catcher on my laptop and didn't like it
at
all.  I found it difficult to use, but I love downloading podcasts with
the
Braille plus.
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
In Tennessee.
staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Paul Henrichsen
 To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:06 PM
 Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions


 Hi, Jenny. Thanks. I couldn't find any tutorials on the APH site.
I found three files where Larry went through using the product and taking 
questions, but no tutorial with the braille keys in mind.

 Reading the APH manual, there seemed to be so many questions unanswered
in
my mind.

 It's like I wanted the manual to go into much more depth on things like
setting up rules in email as an example.
The email filtering is one of the things that has me pretty excited about 
this unit and using it when traveling.

 Also, learning to get connected to an open WiFi network.

 I also wanted to see more on setting up for podcasts and rss feeds which
will be a new thing for me.

 So, I hope you guys don't mind my asking lots of questions for a
while<grin>.





 Paul Henrichsen

 paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx

 Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer

 (800) 894-5374

 Press 5 then 2

 or: (888) 995-9905



 From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
 Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:58 AM
 To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions



 Paul,



 There are slight differences in the content of the CD's due to the fact
that APH and LevelStar are responsible for these separately. However both 
will for sure contain a user manual, the Icon Sync program, and drivers
for
setting up your unit to use your computer's internet connection with USB.
As far as I know, neither CD contains the tutorials you downloaded from
the
LevelStar website.  Both APH and LevelStar maintain separate sets of
tutorials and documentation on their various websites. as for reading the 
manual, there is a Help file on the unit, and your CD will contain the
same
file.

 Hope that helps you,

 Jenny Axler



   ----- Original Message -----

   From: Paul Henrichsen

   To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

   Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:38 AM

   Subject: [icon-discuss] New user with questions



   Hi, everyone. I will be getting my icon braille plus, hopefully,
tomorrow.

   What is the difference between the cd that comes with the icon and the
one that comes with the braille plus?

   Are the tutorials on the braille plus cd different than the ones I
downloaded from the level star site?

   Also, I was hoping I could find a manual that I could read off line,
but
all I could find was one online. Is there one on the cd?

   Lastly, are the training sessions archived anywhere? They usually
happen
in the day time when I can't attend.

   I'm sure I'll have lots more questions once I get going.

   Thanks.





   Paul Henrichsen

   paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx

   Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer

   (800) 894-5374

   Press 5 then 2

   or: (888) 995-9905





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