[icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
- From: Terrence van Ettinger <terrence@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:33:49 -0900
I think what she was talking about was one of those stand-alone burners
that doesn't have a computer involved. Those likely wouldn't tag the
songs properly.
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:11:00 -0500, John Esak wrote:
>Yes, hopefully, the CD should have been tagged properly and wasn't. In
>some
>very rare instances a CD is not in one of the major CD databases like
>CDDB
>as Terrance noted. But, mostly, they are. I am away from my main place
>just
>now, so I can't pull together an exact step by step for you or your
>friend,
>but I will next week sometime. It basically means that you want the
>program
>being used to convert the audio from CD to .mp3 to be aware of one of
>the
>Internet databases *while* it is ripping your songs. I like CDDB, too.
>In
>most ripping programs there is a setting for Internet CD database, and
>you
>can enter the name there. My guess is that on the songs, and CD's ripped
>for
>you so far, this field was blank and so the program could not look up
>the
>proper tags. And therefore, unfortunately, you get exactly what you
>stated... Track 01, Track 02, etc., and the whole mess goes into Unknown
>Artist or the like.
>
>John
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of kaye zimpher
>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:35 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
>
>Hi John and list. I have found that if I rip a cd that was previously
>made
>for me such as a cd burnt from a friend's collection, it is not ever
>tagged
>properly. It usually always goes in to a folder called "unknows artist."
>
>Also the songs show up as "track 1 and track 2" respectively. I would
>love
>to have help solving this problem if in fact what you are saying is that
>the
>
>cd once ripped should have song titles and such.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Esak" <john@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:41 PM
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
>
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I want to respond to Stacey's comment about having to tag music first
>>before
>>putting it on the Icon or Braile Plus. The tagging of music files
>>should
>>never be a problem since in most instances it is done automatically for
>>you
>>by whatever conversion program you use to create the .mp3 file in the
>>first
>>place. Meaning, if you have a CD that you are converting songs from,
>>when
>>the conversion to .mp3 is done, the tagging is automatically
>>accomplished
>>as
>>well. This is true assuming your computer is properly set up to retrieve
>>data from one of the Internet CD services. In many/most cases this setup
>>
>>is
>>performed automatically by the conversion software you use. May I
>>suggest
>>Nero to anyone who does not currently have a program for making CD's or
>>converting CD's to .mp3's, it is thoroughly accessible down to every
>>feature
>>and fucntion. Most downloading programs also will tag the song as it is
>>downloading it, (even iTunes which is, of course, the most completely
>>useless piece of badly written software ever produced. It is thoroughly
>>inaccessible in every rspect.(And this from a company making hundreds of
>>millions possibly even billions of dollars on people's desire to buy and
>>hear music, videos, podcasts, etc. They should be ashamed of
>>themselves...
>>and maybe even government sanctioned until they get on the ethical
>>*human*
>>bandwagon.) Anyway, sorry, jumped onto a big bug-a-boo I have about
>>that.
>>The point I want to make is if you are struglling to add tags to your
>>music
>>just so you can put it on the Icon, maybe we can help you get to a
>>situation
>>where it is an automatic thing like it is for 99% of the music lovers
>>out
>>there. You shouldn't ever have to tag a son.
>>
>>Another good fully accessible program is ADMconverter ... but I'll find
>>some
>>exact names and links in the next week or so and put them up.
>>
>>Heck, with the upcoming release of the next version from LevelStar and
>>APH,
>>moving music files to the Icon is going to be so easy... that you wiull
>>not
>>want to have to waste your time *taggint* your stuff.
>>
>>John Esak
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of stacey robinson
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:27 PM
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
>>
>>
>>Hi Robert,
>>Yes, deleting podcasts right from rss would be great. I also hope the
>>audio player is improved. I would like to be able to put music without
>>having to tag it first.
>>
>>Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
>>In Tennessee.
>>staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Robert DeYoung" <deyoungr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:59 AM
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
>>
>>
>>I agree. I like how easy it is to check for and download podcasts on
>>the
>>braille+. I look forward to some additional features with RSS in future
>>updates. for example, I would like to be able to delete old podcasts
>>right
>>from the rss program. Also, I hope that improvements in the audio
>>player
>>(we heard about in the recent demonstration of audible and nls access
>>podcast) will apply to listening to podcasts. I expect they will. And
>>finally, I hope the features of the web browser will apply to reading
>>rss
>>text articles. the braille+ has so many things going for it from my
>>perspective. Size, easy of use and range of features are high on the
>>list.
>>
>>Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>"stacey robinson" <staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2/16/2008 8:41 AM >>>
>>Hi Paul,
>>One of the things I love about the Braille Plus is how well the RSS
>>reader
>>handles podcasts. I tried a pod catcher on my laptop and didn't like it
>>
>>at
>>all. I found it difficult to use, but I love downloading podcasts with
>>the
>>Braille plus.
>>Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
>>In Tennessee.
>>staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Paul Henrichsen
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:06 PM
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
>>
>>
>>Hi, Jenny. Thanks. I couldn't find any tutorials on the APH site.
>>
>>I found three files where Larry went through using the product and
>>taking
>>questions, but no tutorial with the braille keys in mind.
>>
>>Reading the APH manual, there seemed to be so many questions unanswered
>>in
>>my mind.
>>
>>It's like I wanted the manual to go into much more depth on things like
>>setting up rules in email as an example.
>>
>>The email filtering is one of the things that has me pretty excited
>>about
>>this unit and using it when traveling.
>>
>>Also, learning to get connected to an open WiFi network.
>>
>>I also wanted to see more on setting up for podcasts and rss feeds which
>>will be a new thing for me.
>>
>>So, I hope you guys don't mind my asking lots of questions for a
>>while<grin>.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Paul Henrichsen
>>
>>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>>
>>(800) 894-5374
>>
>>Press 5 then 2
>>
>>or: (888) 995-9905
>>
>>
>>
>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
>>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:58 AM
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: New user with questions
>>
>>
>>
>>Paul,
>>
>>
>>
>>There are slight differences in the content of the CD's due to the fact
>>that APH and LevelStar are responsible for these separately. However
>>both
>>will for sure contain a user manual, the Icon Sync program, and drivers
>>for
>>setting up your unit to use your computer's internet connection with
>>USB.
>>As far as I know, neither CD contains the tutorials you downloaded from
>>the
>>LevelStar website. Both APH and LevelStar maintain separate sets of
>>tutorials and documentation on their various websites. as for reading
>>the
>>manual, there is a Help file on the unit, and your CD will contain the
>>same
>>file.
>>
>>Hope that helps you,
>>
>>Jenny Axler
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>
>>From: Paul Henrichsen
>>
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:38 AM
>>
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] New user with questions
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi, everyone. I will be getting my icon braille plus, hopefully,
>>tomorrow.
>>
>>What is the difference between the cd that comes with the icon and the
>>one that comes with the braille plus?
>>
>>Are the tutorials on the braille plus cd different than the ones I
>>downloaded from the level star site?
>>
>>Also, I was hoping I could find a manual that I could read off line,
>>but
>>all I could find was one online. Is there one on the cd?
>>
>>Lastly, are the training sessions archived anywhere? They usually
>>happen
>>in the day time when I can't attend.
>>
>>I'm sure I'll have lots more questions once I get going.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Paul Henrichsen
>>
>>paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>Kurzweil 1000 Technical Support Engineer
>>
>>(800) 894-5374
>>
>>Press 5 then 2
>>
>>or: (888) 995-9905
>>
>>
>>
>>
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