Paul: I think you'll stand a better chance of getting help from fellow listers who have better experiences to offer. We are very busy with all of these update furies and quite frankly I don't have the time and/or experiences required to help you. That is why I told you what I did previously. We decided in the beginning of this adventure not to spend the extra time it would take just for that reason. I'll forward the message to Rob, but I can't promise anything. Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT American Printing House For The Blind 1839 Frankfort Ave. Louisville, KY 40206 PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>> paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx 04/02/08 07:18PM >>> Pamela. I love the "So there", comment<grin>. I think that if my boss at kurzweil saw me send a message to a customer like that, I'd be called on the carpet<grin>. Your bedside manner aside, I wonder if Rob would consent to write or talk with me about how to set this up from the braille plus side. Turning off my firewall makes no difference. I'm sure I just need someone who knows their way around vista to give me a little of their time. I did try calling APH yesterday as my first thought, but haven't heard anything back since yesterday morning. As a representative for APH technical support, thanks for your cheerful and positive response<grin>. -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of PAMELA RADER Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 7:02 AM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing Paul: Admittedly, there are still some buggs to work out. However, in our defense, I can tell you that Rob Meredith put a lot of work into this and I know for a fact that he is running Windows Vista on his home computer. So, there! One thing to keep in mind with regard to file sharing is that we can tell you how it's supposed to work, but you're going to have to do some homework on your part, as far as the Vista end goes, with regard to solving any firewall issues or any other curve that microsoft has thrown your way. It's very possible that what you want to do can be done, but there may be some workarounds that have to be done. It is impossible for us to know all of those because every situation is different. I'm sure you're not the only Vista user on this list and so perhaps there will be someone else who can help you troubleshoot. Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT American Printing House For The Blind 1839 Frankfort Ave. Louisville, KY 40206 PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>> paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx 04/01/08 06:16PM >>> I am really upset. I'll admit that I haven't read all of my 400 messages yet. I am glad those with xp are having good experiences with file sharing. But those of us with vista so far have been left out in the cold. At the risk of getting kicked off this list, I am really upset. I talked with Michael at level star today. I think a lot of Michael. He's a pretty neat guy. But he said no testing had been done with vista with regards to file sharing and had no ideas of what to do other than turning on the guest account which did nothing to resolve the problem. Words like irresponsible and reprehensible come to mind. Vista has been out for well over a year now and no one on the development or beta teams thought to test the icon with vista? How can this be? Michael's thought was that perhaps people are afraid of it. Well, as of January 2009, you won't be able to buy a computer with XP. One would think that level star and/or APH would get with the program and use the current operating system in their tests of the icon, braille plus, or any other software for the computer or related to those devices.. This is the current operating system; not windows xp; not windows 98, 95 or DOS. Documentation should have been put out at the time of release for file sharing with xp as well as for vista. So, now, I am unable to use a feature on which I was counting. Now, I am forced to wait until someone on the development team gets their hands on a vista machine and solves this problem. I respectfully submit my name as an interested beta tester for all future releases, both hardware and software so at least someone with a vista machine will test these applications to make sure they are ready for the current operating system. 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