[icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
- From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:37:37 -0700
Hi, Chase. But you wouldn't be dealing with a firewall from your ISP if you
wanted to transfer just from your icon to your pc or vice versa.
Your router would most certainly have a firewall, though.
-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chase Crispin
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 4:38 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
You also could have triple firewalls, because a lot of ISPs have firewalls
running.
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-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:11 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
Yes, we need to be familiar with how things work, and I hope, between APH
and LevelStar, between those of us who use Vista, and XP, that someone can
find some answers for everyone. And yes, we did know that this would be
complicated, and that we would need to do a lot to support it. We have no
problem with that. I have been out of town the last couple of days, so am
jus getting to all this email. Yes, I probably should send a few file
sharing hints to the list, as I think there are some things that can be of
value. But, we won't document it. The reason we won't is that it would
take an entire manual by itself. And where do we stop? There are 3
versions of XP, 5 versions of vista, and what about Mac users, and Linux
users? Everything that can be documented on the Icon/Braille + side of it
is documented, and there is also plenty of documentation about how to set
things up for each operating system on the various websites for those OS's,
but the rest, unfortunately, can be so individual to your specific system,
there's no way we could ever cover it all. By the way, have you looked at
the Braille Note's documentation on Networking? If you've set it up, you
must have. What do you see in there about vista, XP, or anything else for
that matter?
If we documented Microsoft, we'd appear to favor Microsoft, but eeven taking
on the task of covering all those OS's is an impossible one. So, we'll give
you as much help as we can on list and through tech support, but that's all
we can do. I do apologize that Michael and I implied that Vista was not
tested. No one at LevelStar has a Vista machine, but obviously, those at
APH do, and did test it.
As for it being as easy as it appears, it has been for some people, and if
all goes well, it should go as I demoed it. but I actually had my own share
of problemms setting things up, but they aren't necessarily the same ones
others are having. All we can do is try things, and if that doesn't work,
try something else. That sounds very unorganized, and not very
knowledgeable, but I did my own bit of research on Microsoft.com with my own
troubles, and I discovered that there is such a wide range of issues that
can get in the way that, it's really all I know to say. I hope that someone
is abel to help you get things resolved soon. Only one more thing I can
think to ask as far as my own knowledge goes. Do you have more than 1
firewall running? Sometimes if you're running both Norton and Windows
Firewalls, or any multiple firewalls that can cause a problem. If worse
comes to worse, you may need to edit your registry to allow for annonymous
log ons, but if that were the case, I wouldn't think your other machines
could gain access.
Anyhow, we'll keep working on it.
Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:04 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
> Hi, Jenny. Know that I am not upset any more today, and that I think very
> highly of you and the levelstar and APH staff.
> I have absolutely no regrets about buying this unit. I tell every blind
> person I talk to about what a great unit it is and how far ahead of the
> competition it is.
> I just wanted to reply to your statements.
> I am absolutely, positively sure this is braille plus and/or icon
> related<grin>.
> My wife and I checked out my network last evening from her computer. We
> can
> share files between our two desktop computers as well as her laptops,
> which
> are vista and xp. My daughter can use her laptop on our network when she
> comes to visit us.
> I can even set up sharing wirelessly with my computer on my braille note.
> So everything from the computer side is correct.
> I had typed the path in correctly to my music folder as well.
> I have even set up a shortcut on my desktop which allows me to see all of
> the shared folders on my braille plus and can transfer to and from those
> folders.
> I just can't set anything up on the braille plus side.
> I understand that there is no documentation for setting up file sharing,
> although I think there should have been at the time of release.
> Perhaps it should have been a chapter in the manual just as would be for
> using the other new features.
> I also understand that you were just trying to show us the new features of
> the 1.1 release; so your demonstration of file sharing was by no means
> complete nor meant as a tutorial.
> I also concede that at some future date, you will be creating tutorials
> for
> all of the new features of this release.
> But this is much more complicated than most of the other new features and,
> therefore, much harder to comprehend and set up.
> You must have guessed that users would find this much more difficult to
> set
> up than moving contacts to another list, understanding the bookshelf or
> feed
> folders or grasping the other new features.
> You are going to have people contacting you for help setting up sharing on
> both xp and vista.
> I have seen people with xp on this list having trouble getting things to
> work. This surprised me because in your demo, on your xp machine, it
> worked
> so well.
> My mistake was in thinking this would be as easy as you made it appear
> during your demo.
> And for that, I apologize.
> I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and transferring
> at
> 375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:36 PM
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
> Paul,
>
> While it is true that testing was not done with Vista, and maybe should
> have
>
> been, there is no documentation on how to set up with XP either other than
> my podcast which, is more about demonstrating an example of how to access
> shared files from the unit. I did not go over how to set things up on the
> PC side of things in XP or any other operating system. If you check out
> other PDA's that support netwowrking, you will find that the only
> documentation provided is on the side of the PDA. It is up to you to
> research how to set things up on the computer side of things. We cannot
> be
> responsible for knowing the ins and outs of every operating system,
> Microsoft or otherwise. You might wish to check out Microsoft.com to look
> through their knowledge base concerning troubleshooting network issues.
> i'd
>
> be curious, have you tried to access shared files on your vista PC from
> another PC? In other words, are you sure this is specifically Braille +
> related?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:16 PM
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
>
>>I am really upset.
>> I'll admit that I haven't read all of my 400 messages yet.
>> I am glad those with xp are having good experiences with file sharing.
>> But those of us with vista so far have been left out in the cold.
>> At the risk of getting kicked off this list, I am really upset.
>> I talked with Michael at level star today. I think a lot of Michael. He's
>> a
>> pretty neat guy.
>> But he said no testing had been done with vista with regards to file
>> sharing
>> and had no ideas of what to do other than turning on the guest account
>> which
>> did nothing to resolve the problem.
>> Words like irresponsible and reprehensible come to mind.
>> Vista has been out for well over a year now and no one on the development
>> or
>> beta teams thought to test the icon with vista?
>> How can this be?
>> Michael's thought was that perhaps people are afraid of it.
>> Well, as of January 2009, you won't be able to buy a computer with XP.
>> One would think that level star and/or APH would get with the program and
>> use the current operating system in their tests of the icon, braille
>> plus,
>> or any other software for the computer or related to those devices..
>> This is the current operating system; not windows xp; not windows 98, 95
>> or
>> DOS.
>> Documentation should have been put out at the time of release for file
>> sharing with xp as well as for vista.
>> So, now, I am unable to use a feature on which I was counting.
>> Now, I am forced to wait until someone on the development team gets their
>> hands on a vista machine and solves this problem.
>> I respectfully submit my name as an interested beta tester for all future
>> releases, both hardware and software so at least someone with a vista
>> machine will test these applications to make sure they are ready for the
>> current operating system.
>>
>> Paul Henrichsen
>> <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
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