[icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing

  • From: Paul Henrichsen <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:10:06 -0700

No. I can share files with the icon, but only by connecting from my computer.
I can't see any of my computer's folders from the icon.

On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:01:44 -0400, David Poehlman wrote:


>so you can connect wirelessly just not share the icon and vise versa.  
>I 
>wonder what the rub may be.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:36 PM
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
>
>Hi, David. I am not a vista authority by any means either<grin> But from
>what I can figure out, if I connect my cell phone or a PDA, I have to 
>launch
>to mobile device center where I can upgrade the firmware of the device 
>or
>synchronize my contacts or planner, etc.
>I know I don't have to use the mobile device center with my braille 
>note.
>But, of course, they have their own sync program just like the icon 
>does.
>Regarding transfer speeds, if I connect using USB, transfers are really
>slow. As I understand it, the icon only uses USB 1.0 and not 2.0.
>When I connect wirelessly, my transfers are much faster.
>Hope this helps.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
>Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:55 AM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
>Paul,
>
>You have a long explanation below the end of which puzzles me:
>"> I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and 
>transferring
>>at
>>375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps."
>
>Can you ellaborate?  I do believe this is a communication issue but not
>necessarily entirely an Icon/Braille+ issue, since Macs and pcs are 
>being
>networked.  If it is an ICon/Braille+ issue, it is unit specific.  I 
>have
>heard that vista has some problems with pdas.  I had suggested because I
>have seen it in some documentation for pdas for vista that turning on 
>the
>mobile center may help but then all youwant to do is network the device 
>and
>not sync it so that might not apply.  I have noo direct experience with
>vista, but it wouldn't hurt to have a dialog with Microsoft on this and 
>see
>if they have any suggestions toward a solution.
>
>I think I did see someone successfully using ista with an Icon/braille+.
>
>I hope you read this and find it useful.  In any case, please explain 
>the
>above quoted statement to us?
>
>Thanks!
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:04 PM
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
>
>>Hi, Jenny. Know that I am not upset any more today, and that I think 
>>very
>>highly of you and the levelstar and APH staff.
>>I have absolutely no regrets about buying this unit. I tell every blind
>>person I talk to about what a great unit it is and how far ahead of the
>>competition it is.
>>I just wanted to reply to your statements.
>>I am absolutely, positively sure this is braille plus and/or icon
>>related<grin>.
>>My wife and I checked out my network last evening from her computer. We
>>can
>>share files between our two desktop computers as well as her laptops,
>>which
>>are vista and xp. My daughter can use her laptop on our network when she
>>comes to visit us.
>>I can even set up sharing wirelessly with my computer on my braille 
>>note.
>>So everything from the computer side is correct.
>>I had typed the path in correctly to my music folder as well.
>>I have even set up a shortcut on my desktop which allows me to see all 
>>of
>>the shared folders on my braille plus and can transfer to and from those
>>folders.
>>I just can't set anything up on the braille plus side.
>>I understand that there is no documentation for setting up file sharing,
>>although I think there should have been at the time of release.
>>Perhaps it should have been a chapter in the manual just as would be for
>>using the other new features.
>>I also understand that you were just trying to show us the new features 
>>of
>>the 1.1 release; so your demonstration of file sharing was by no means
>>complete nor meant as a tutorial.
>>I also concede that at some future date, you will be creating tutorials
>>for
>>all of the new features of this release.
>>But this is much more complicated than most of the other new features 
>>and,
>>therefore, much harder to comprehend and set up.
>>You must have guessed that users would find this much more difficult to
>>set
>>up than moving contacts to another list, understanding the bookshelf or
>>feed
>>folders or grasping the other new features.
>>You are going to have people contacting you for help setting up sharing 
>>on
>>both xp and vista.
>>I have seen people with xp on this list having trouble getting things to
>>work. This surprised me because in your demo, on your xp machine, it
>>worked
>>so well.
>>My mistake was in thinking this would be as easy as you made it appear
>>during your demo.
>>And for that, I apologize.
>>I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and 
>>transferring
>>at
>>375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:36 PM
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>>
>>Paul,
>>
>>While it is true that testing was not done with Vista, and maybe should
>>have
>>
>>been, there is no documentation on how to set up with XP either other 
>>than
>>my podcast which, is more about demonstrating an example of how to 
>>access
>>shared files from the unit.  I did not go over how to set things up on 
>>the
>>PC side of things in XP or any other operating system.  If you check out
>>other PDA's that support netwowrking, you will find that the only
>>documentation provided is on the side of the PDA.  It is up to you to
>>research how to set things up on the computer side of things.  We cannot
>>be
>>responsible for knowing the ins and outs of every operating system,
>>Microsoft or otherwise.  You might wish to check out Microsoft.com to 
>>look
>>through their knowledge base concerning troubleshooting network issues.
>>i'd
>>
>>be curious, have you tried to access shared files on your vista PC from
>>another PC?  In other words, are you sure this is specifically Braille +
>>related?
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:16 PM
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>>
>>
>>>I am really upset.
>>>I'll admit that I haven't read all of my 400 messages yet.
>>>I am glad those with xp are having good experiences with file sharing.
>>>But those of us with vista so far have been left out in the cold.
>>>At the risk of getting kicked off this list, I am really upset.
>>>I talked with Michael at level star today. I think a lot of Michael. 
>>>He's
>>>a
>>>pretty neat guy.
>>>But he said no testing had been done with vista with regards to file
>>>sharing
>>>and had no ideas of what to do other than turning on the guest account
>>>which
>>>did nothing to resolve the problem.
>>>Words like irresponsible and reprehensible come to mind.
>>>Vista has been out for well over a year now and no one on the 
>>>development
>>>or
>>>beta teams thought to test the icon with vista?
>>>How can this be?
>>>Michael's thought was that perhaps people are afraid of it.
>>>Well, as of January 2009,  you won't be able to buy a computer with XP.
>>>One would think that level star and/or APH would get with the program 
>>>and
>>>use the current operating system in their tests of the icon, braille
>>>plus,
>>>or any other software for the computer or related to those devices..
>>>This is the current operating system; not windows xp; not windows 98, 95
>>>or
>>>DOS.
>>>Documentation should have been put out at the time of release for file
>>>sharing with xp as well as for vista.
>>>So, now, I am unable to use a feature on which I was counting.
>>>Now, I am forced to wait until someone on the development team gets 
>>>their
>>>hands on a vista machine and solves this problem.
>>>I respectfully submit my name as an interested beta tester for all 
>>>future
>>>releases, both hardware and software so at least someone with a vista
>>>machine will test these applications to make sure they are ready for the
>>>current operating system.
>>>
>>>Paul Henrichsen
>>><paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>
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