paul, when I go to file explorer and choose network folders, I am presented with a list of the folders I've already activated and a browse button. when I click that, I am presented with a list of work groups and inside the main work group is a list of computers and so on. What happens when you click browse and follow the steps or does anything happen at all? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 1:10 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing No. I can share files with the icon, but only by connecting from my computer. I can't see any of my computer's folders from the icon. On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:01:44 -0400, David Poehlman wrote: >so you can connect wirelessly just not share the icon and vise versa. >I >wonder what the rub may be. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 7:36 PM >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing > > >Hi, David. I am not a vista authority by any means either<grin> But from >what I can figure out, if I connect my cell phone or a PDA, I have to >launch >to mobile device center where I can upgrade the firmware of the device >or >synchronize my contacts or planner, etc. >I know I don't have to use the mobile device center with my braille >note. >But, of course, they have their own sync program just like the icon >does. >Regarding transfer speeds, if I connect using USB, transfers are really >slow. As I understand it, the icon only uses USB 1.0 and not 2.0. >When I connect wirelessly, my transfers are much faster. >Hope this helps. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman >Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:55 AM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing > >Paul, > >You have a long explanation below the end of which puzzles me: >"> I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and >transferring >>at >>375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps." > >Can you ellaborate? I do believe this is a communication issue but not >necessarily entirely an Icon/Braille+ issue, since Macs and pcs are >being >networked. If it is an ICon/Braille+ issue, it is unit specific. I >have >heard that vista has some problems with pdas. I had suggested because I >have seen it in some documentation for pdas for vista that turning on >the >mobile center may help but then all youwant to do is network the device >and >not sync it so that might not apply. I have noo direct experience with >vista, but it wouldn't hurt to have a dialog with Microsoft on this and >see >if they have any suggestions toward a solution. > >I think I did see someone successfully using ista with an Icon/braille+. > >I hope you read this and find it useful. In any case, please explain >the >above quoted statement to us? > >Thanks! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:04 PM >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing > > >>Hi, Jenny. Know that I am not upset any more today, and that I think >>very >>highly of you and the levelstar and APH staff. >>I have absolutely no regrets about buying this unit. I tell every blind >>person I talk to about what a great unit it is and how far ahead of the >>competition it is. >>I just wanted to reply to your statements. >>I am absolutely, positively sure this is braille plus and/or icon >>related<grin>. >>My wife and I checked out my network last evening from her computer. We >>can >>share files between our two desktop computers as well as her laptops, >>which >>are vista and xp. My daughter can use her laptop on our network when she >>comes to visit us. >>I can even set up sharing wirelessly with my computer on my braille >>note. >>So everything from the computer side is correct. >>I had typed the path in correctly to my music folder as well. >>I have even set up a shortcut on my desktop which allows me to see all >>of >>the shared folders on my braille plus and can transfer to and from those >>folders. >>I just can't set anything up on the braille plus side. >>I understand that there is no documentation for setting up file sharing, >>although I think there should have been at the time of release. >>Perhaps it should have been a chapter in the manual just as would be for >>using the other new features. >>I also understand that you were just trying to show us the new features >>of >>the 1.1 release; so your demonstration of file sharing was by no means >>complete nor meant as a tutorial. >>I also concede that at some future date, you will be creating tutorials >>for >>all of the new features of this release. >>But this is much more complicated than most of the other new features >>and, >>therefore, much harder to comprehend and set up. >>You must have guessed that users would find this much more difficult to >>set >>up than moving contacts to another list, understanding the bookshelf or >>feed >>folders or grasping the other new features. >>You are going to have people contacting you for help setting up sharing >>on >>both xp and vista. >>I have seen people with xp on this list having trouble getting things to >>work. This surprised me because in your demo, on your xp machine, it >>worked >>so well. >>My mistake was in thinking this would be as easy as you made it appear >>during your demo. >>And for that, I apologize. >>I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and >>transferring >>at >>375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler >>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:36 PM >>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing >> >>Paul, >> >>While it is true that testing was not done with Vista, and maybe should >>have >> >>been, there is no documentation on how to set up with XP either other >>than >>my podcast which, is more about demonstrating an example of how to >>access >>shared files from the unit. I did not go over how to set things up on >>the >>PC side of things in XP or any other operating system. If you check out >>other PDA's that support netwowrking, you will find that the only >>documentation provided is on the side of the PDA. It is up to you to >>research how to set things up on the computer side of things. We cannot >>be >>responsible for knowing the ins and outs of every operating system, >>Microsoft or otherwise. You might wish to check out Microsoft.com to >>look >>through their knowledge base concerning troubleshooting network issues. >>i'd >> >>be curious, have you tried to access shared files on your vista PC from >>another PC? In other words, are you sure this is specifically Braille + >>related? >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:16 PM >>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing >> >> >>>I am really upset. >>>I'll admit that I haven't read all of my 400 messages yet. >>>I am glad those with xp are having good experiences with file sharing. >>>But those of us with vista so far have been left out in the cold. >>>At the risk of getting kicked off this list, I am really upset. >>>I talked with Michael at level star today. I think a lot of Michael. >>>He's >>>a >>>pretty neat guy. >>>But he said no testing had been done with vista with regards to file >>>sharing >>>and had no ideas of what to do other than turning on the guest account >>>which >>>did nothing to resolve the problem. >>>Words like irresponsible and reprehensible come to mind. >>>Vista has been out for well over a year now and no one on the >>>development >>>or >>>beta teams thought to test the icon with vista? >>>How can this be? >>>Michael's thought was that perhaps people are afraid of it. >>>Well, as of January 2009, you won't be able to buy a computer with XP. >>>One would think that level star and/or APH would get with the program >>>and >>>use the current operating system in their tests of the icon, braille >>>plus, >>>or any other software for the computer or related to those devices.. >>>This is the current operating system; not windows xp; not windows 98, 95 >>>or >>>DOS. >>>Documentation should have been put out at the time of release for file >>>sharing with xp as well as for vista. >>>So, now, I am unable to use a feature on which I was counting. >>>Now, I am forced to wait until someone on the development team gets >>>their >>>hands on a vista machine and solves this problem. >>>I respectfully submit my name as an interested beta tester for all >>>future >>>releases, both hardware and software so at least someone with a vista >>>machine will test these applications to make sure they are ready for the >>>current operating system. >>> >>>Paul Henrichsen >>><paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> >>> >>>__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>signature >>>database 2993 (20080401) __________ >>> >>>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>>http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>>Icon Discuss Mailing List >>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss >>> >>>To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in >>>the >>>subject line to: >>> >>>icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>To post to this list, send your message to: >>> >>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>>For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and >>>Braille >>>+, Visit >>>the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >>>Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >>>http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >>>Visit the APH FAQ page at >>>http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html >>> >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG. >>>Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - 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Release Date: >>4/3/2008 >>6:36 PM >> >> > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in >the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and >Braille +, > >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in >the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and >Braille +, >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in >the >subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and >Braille +, >Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html > >Icon Discuss Mailing List >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >//www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss > >To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in >the subject line to: > >icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To post to this list, send your message to: > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and >Braille +, Visit >the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: >Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at >http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php >Visit the APH FAQ page at >http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html Icon Discuss Mailing List icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx //www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject line to: icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To post to this list, send your message to: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, Visit the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php Visit the APH FAQ page at http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html