[icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
- From: "Chase Crispin" <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:50:04 -0500
Paul:
Icon/Braille Plus run USB 1.1. 1.0 is incredibly slow! That would be
windows NT.
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-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:36 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
Hi, David. I am not a vista authority by any means either<grin> But from
what I can figure out, if I connect my cell phone or a PDA, I have to launch
to mobile device center where I can upgrade the firmware of the device or
synchronize my contacts or planner, etc.
I know I don't have to use the mobile device center with my braille note.
But, of course, they have their own sync program just like the icon does.
Regarding transfer speeds, if I connect using USB, transfers are really
slow. As I understand it, the icon only uses USB 1.0 and not 2.0.
When I connect wirelessly, my transfers are much faster.
Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:55 AM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
Paul,
You have a long explanation below the end of which puzzles me:
"> I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and transferring
> at
> 375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps."
Can you ellaborate? I do believe this is a communication issue but not
necessarily entirely an Icon/Braille+ issue, since Macs and pcs are being
networked. If it is an ICon/Braille+ issue, it is unit specific. I have
heard that vista has some problems with pdas. I had suggested because I
have seen it in some documentation for pdas for vista that turning on the
mobile center may help but then all youwant to do is network the device and
not sync it so that might not apply. I have noo direct experience with
vista, but it wouldn't hurt to have a dialog with Microsoft on this and see
if they have any suggestions toward a solution.
I think I did see someone successfully using ista with an Icon/braille+.
I hope you read this and find it useful. In any case, please explain the
above quoted statement to us?
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:04 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
> Hi, Jenny. Know that I am not upset any more today, and that I think very
> highly of you and the levelstar and APH staff.
> I have absolutely no regrets about buying this unit. I tell every blind
> person I talk to about what a great unit it is and how far ahead of the
> competition it is.
> I just wanted to reply to your statements.
> I am absolutely, positively sure this is braille plus and/or icon
> related<grin>.
> My wife and I checked out my network last evening from her computer. We
> can
> share files between our two desktop computers as well as her laptops,
> which
> are vista and xp. My daughter can use her laptop on our network when she
> comes to visit us.
> I can even set up sharing wirelessly with my computer on my braille note.
> So everything from the computer side is correct.
> I had typed the path in correctly to my music folder as well.
> I have even set up a shortcut on my desktop which allows me to see all of
> the shared folders on my braille plus and can transfer to and from those
> folders.
> I just can't set anything up on the braille plus side.
> I understand that there is no documentation for setting up file sharing,
> although I think there should have been at the time of release.
> Perhaps it should have been a chapter in the manual just as would be for
> using the other new features.
> I also understand that you were just trying to show us the new features of
> the 1.1 release; so your demonstration of file sharing was by no means
> complete nor meant as a tutorial.
> I also concede that at some future date, you will be creating tutorials
> for
> all of the new features of this release.
> But this is much more complicated than most of the other new features and,
> therefore, much harder to comprehend and set up.
> You must have guessed that users would find this much more difficult to
> set
> up than moving contacts to another list, understanding the bookshelf or
> feed
> folders or grasping the other new features.
> You are going to have people contacting you for help setting up sharing on
> both xp and vista.
> I have seen people with xp on this list having trouble getting things to
> work. This surprised me because in your demo, on your xp machine, it
> worked
> so well.
> My mistake was in thinking this would be as easy as you made it appear
> during your demo.
> And for that, I apologize.
> I do have something from the pc side, at least, for now, and transferring
> at
> 375 to 400 kbps is sure better than by USB at 7 kbps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:36 PM
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
> Paul,
>
> While it is true that testing was not done with Vista, and maybe should
> have
>
> been, there is no documentation on how to set up with XP either other than
> my podcast which, is more about demonstrating an example of how to access
> shared files from the unit. I did not go over how to set things up on the
> PC side of things in XP or any other operating system. If you check out
> other PDA's that support netwowrking, you will find that the only
> documentation provided is on the side of the PDA. It is up to you to
> research how to set things up on the computer side of things. We cannot
> be
> responsible for knowing the ins and outs of every operating system,
> Microsoft or otherwise. You might wish to check out Microsoft.com to look
> through their knowledge base concerning troubleshooting network issues.
> i'd
>
> be curious, have you tried to access shared files on your vista PC from
> another PC? In other words, are you sure this is specifically Braille +
> related?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Henrichsen" <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 4:16 PM
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: My first experience with file sharing
>
>
>>I am really upset.
>> I'll admit that I haven't read all of my 400 messages yet.
>> I am glad those with xp are having good experiences with file sharing.
>> But those of us with vista so far have been left out in the cold.
>> At the risk of getting kicked off this list, I am really upset.
>> I talked with Michael at level star today. I think a lot of Michael. He's
>> a
>> pretty neat guy.
>> But he said no testing had been done with vista with regards to file
>> sharing
>> and had no ideas of what to do other than turning on the guest account
>> which
>> did nothing to resolve the problem.
>> Words like irresponsible and reprehensible come to mind.
>> Vista has been out for well over a year now and no one on the development
>> or
>> beta teams thought to test the icon with vista?
>> How can this be?
>> Michael's thought was that perhaps people are afraid of it.
>> Well, as of January 2009, you won't be able to buy a computer with XP.
>> One would think that level star and/or APH would get with the program and
>> use the current operating system in their tests of the icon, braille
>> plus,
>> or any other software for the computer or related to those devices..
>> This is the current operating system; not windows xp; not windows 98, 95
>> or
>> DOS.
>> Documentation should have been put out at the time of release for file
>> sharing with xp as well as for vista.
>> So, now, I am unable to use a feature on which I was counting.
>> Now, I am forced to wait until someone on the development team gets their
>> hands on a vista machine and solves this problem.
>> I respectfully submit my name as an interested beta tester for all future
>> releases, both hardware and software so at least someone with a vista
>> machine will test these applications to make sure they are ready for the
>> current operating system.
>>
>> Paul Henrichsen
>> <paulh52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
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