[gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the ideal way to go
- From: Aaron Linson <blindgeek1989@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:01:03 -0400
As a college student with an iPhone and a braillenote apex I believe there is
still room for these devices. I am a music major concentrating in sound
engineering. I do not know what I would do without my apex. I use it to not
only take notes in class but write blog posts, keep record of track notes and
comments, take down what mics are in what inputs and so on. I also use it a lot
as a GPS and love how sendero has made their system so great. I feel the that
the iPhone seeing eye gps will be a good substitute for when I can't use my
note taker either because of bad weather or battery drainage. One added value
at least for me is being able to read without having to connect another device
via bluetooth and keep up with both devices batteries. Plus the instant on
capability is awesome as well. I know that with apps like accessnote you can do
this but I feel that if your a hardcore braille user the apple devices only
give you so much. At least with a dedicated machine you have it at your finger
tips. I'm also learning how to read braille music and find the apex invaluable
for learning this method of braille as well. The argument of note takers
running outdated operating systems I think is a good point but also think about
that you get what you take away from the device as well. For instance, my
iPhone has apps that I barely use but I know that if I need them I know they
are there.
Aaron Linson
IOS and Android Accessibility Advocate
Once an Eagle
Always an Eagle
On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> With the availability of main stream mobile devices that are accessible, it
> simply makes no sense to pay much more money for these notetakers that use
> outdated operating systems in a proprietary environment.
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:33 PM, "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Dale,
>>
>> Its not really about processor power or memory any more. The differentiating
>> factor between a PDA and the phone is the keyboard versus the touch screen
>> or spotty voice recognition, especially in mobile environments. Yes, you can
>> add an external keyboard or Braille display but that takes away from the
>> main benefit of the iPhone as a handheld unit. External devices don't always
>> connect and they are a second item to charge. Add an external GPS receiver
>> because the built-in one is mediocre, and the mobile situation turns
>> complicated.
>>
>> Something like a Braille Sense OnHand has a built in keyboard and GPS, no
>> external pieces needed.
>>
>> What I am finding is that people are willing to sacrifice the productivity
>> of the PDA for the basic functionality of the mobile device. I understand
>> how it is hard to justify access tech prices even if the products are
>> superior versus dirt cheap App Store and Market Place mainstream prices.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:28 AM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the ideal way to go
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Are there any technical reasons why a suitable smart phone cannot offer the
>> same or even superior capabilities to those of a note taker with respect to
>> GPS? They do have far superior microprocessors now and more memory if I am
>> not mistaken and of course built-in receivers, intuitively I would have
>> thought them a more suitable platform. I don't remember detailed
>> specifications of note takers as I have always had far more need for direct
>> mainstream connectivity so got more seamless use from notebook computers.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dale leavens.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:14 PM
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] using dual GPS is the ideal way to go
>>
>>
>>> Mary,
>>>
>>> Probably a poor choice of words on my part. Let's call dual GPS the ideal
>>> way to go but not the only way. There are plenty of situations where
>>> people
>>> have more than one product, say an iPhone using Audible and a Stream also
>>> using Audible.
>>>
>>> I do agree that it is very unfortunate that high priced specialty
>>> technology
>>> costs so much and yet the government funding for it is limited. I'll
>>> address
>>> that in a separate email. The point of my story was to say that the iPhone
>>> is not a replacement for a full fledged accessible GPS product with a real
>>> keyboard and comprehensive real-time and explore features. For those
>>> fortunate enough to have a BrailleNote or Braille Sense with GPS, make the
>>> most of it, especially in challenging situations.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:17 PM
>>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the only way to go
>>>
>>> This really is kind of a sad commentary. How many people who don't get
>>> bucks
>>> from some agency can realistically think about having 2 gps solutions when
>>> one of them costs a whole pile of money, and the remainder of the
>>> applications on that expensive platform can be duplicated elsewhere
>>> cheaper?
>>> Obviously, you can't go from 0 app to full blown solution in 6 months or a
>>> year. But I hope the goal for the ios gps solution is to have a full
>>> product
>>> which will essentially make unnecessary those other entirely too expensive
>>> solutions.
>>> Mary Otten
>>> motten53@xxxxxxxxx
>>>
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