[gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the ideal way to go

  • From: Aaron Linson <blindgeek1989@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:39:50 -0400

the macbook air is great but not for audio production 
Aaron Linson
IOS and Android Accessibility Advocate
Once an Eagle
Always an Eagle

On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In a situation like that, I would suggest the macbook air. It's about as 
> light as a notetaker, and boots in about 10 seconds.
> Original message:
>> Mike Arrigo,
>> Your correct in saying the laptop would be a good choice, As a college 
>> student I want to carry as little as possible when I can, I'd ra carry a 
>> note taker that weighs less than a laptop that could weigh a few more 
>> pounds. Again with the note taker you get instant access to braille not an 
>> add on device
> 
>> Aaron Linson
>> IOS and Android Accessibility Advocate
>> Once an Eagle
>> Always an Eagle
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
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>> Most, if not all of the tasks you mention here could easily be done using a 
>> laptop. Certainly, if your note taker works for you, go for it, but laptops 
>> can do much more and are cheaper.
>> Original message:
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>> As a college student with an iPhone and a braillenote apex I believe there 
>> is still room for these devices. I am a music major concentrating in sound 
>> engineering. I do not know what I would do without my apex. I use it to not 
>> only take notes in class but write blog posts, keep record of track notes 
>> and comments, take down what mics are in what inputs and so on. I also use 
>> it a lot as a GPS and love how sendero has made their system so great. I 
>> feel the that the iPhone seeing eye gps will be a good substitute for when I 
>> can't use my note taker either because of bad weather or battery drainage. 
>> One added value at least for me is being able to read without having to 
>> connect another device via bluetooth and keep up with both devices 
>> batteries. Plus the instant on capability is awesome as well. I know that 
>> with apps like accessnote you can do this but I feel that if your a hardcore 
>> braille user the apple devices only give you so much. At least with a 
>> dedicated machine you have it at your finger tips. I'm also learning how to 
>> read braille music and find the apex invaluable for learning this method of 
>> braille as well. The argument of note takers running outdated operating 
>> systems I think is a good point but also think about that you get what you 
>> take away from the device as well. For instance, my iPhone has apps that I 
>> barely use but I know that if I need them I know they are there.
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> 
>> Aaron Linson
>> IOS and Android Accessibility Advocate
>> Once an Eagle
>> Always an Eagle
> 
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> 
>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
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>> With the availability of main stream mobile devices that are accessible, it 
>> simply makes no sense to pay much more money for these notetakers that use 
>> outdated operating systems in a proprietary environment.
>> On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:33 PM, "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
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>> Dale,
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>> Its not really about processor power or memory any more. The differentiating
>> factor between a PDA and the phone is the keyboard versus the touch screen
>> or spotty voice recognition, especially in mobile environments. Yes, you can
>> add an external keyboard or Braille display but that takes away from the
>> main benefit of the iPhone as a handheld unit. External devices don't always
>> connect and they are a second item to charge. Add an external GPS receiver
>> because the built-in one is mediocre, and the mobile situation turns
>> complicated.
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>> Something like a Braille Sense OnHand has a built in keyboard and GPS, no
>> external pieces needed.
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>> What I am finding is that people are willing to sacrifice the productivity
>> of the PDA for the basic functionality of the mobile device. I understand
>> how it is hard to justify access tech prices even if the products are
>> superior versus dirt cheap App Store and Market Place mainstream prices.
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>> Mike
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>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the ideal way to go
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>> Mike,
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>> Are there any technical reasons why a suitable smart phone cannot offer the
>> same or even superior capabilities to those of a note taker with respect to
>> GPS? They do have far superior microprocessors now and more memory if I am
>> not mistaken and of course built-in receivers, intuitively I would have
>> thought them a more suitable platform. I don't remember detailed
>> specifications of note takers as I have always had far more need for direct
>> mainstream connectivity so got more seamless use from notebook computers.
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>> Thanks.
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> 
>> Dale leavens.
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>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Mary,
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>> Probably a poor choice of words on my part. Let's call dual GPS the ideal
>> way to go but not the only way. There are plenty of situations where
>> people
>> have more than one product, say an iPhone using Audible and a Stream also
>> using Audible.
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>> I do agree that it is very unfortunate that high priced specialty
>> technology
>> costs so much and yet the government funding for it is limited. I'll
>> address
>> that in a separate email. The point of my story was to say that the iPhone
>> is not a replacement for a full fledged accessible GPS product with a real
>> keyboard and comprehensive real-time and explore features. For those
>> fortunate enough to have a BrailleNote or Braille Sense with GPS, make the
>> most of it, especially in challenging situations.
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> 
>> Mike
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>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the only way to go
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>> This really is kind of a sad commentary. How many people who don't get
>> bucks
>> from some agency can realistically think about having 2 gps solutions when
>> one of them costs a whole pile of money, and the remainder of the
>> applications on that expensive platform can be duplicated elsewhere
>> cheaper?
>> Obviously, you can't go from 0 app to full blown solution in 6 months or a
>> year. But I hope the goal for the ios gps solution is to have a full
>> product
>> which will essentially make unnecessary those other entirely too expensive
>> solutions.
>> Mary Otten
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