[gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the ideal way to go

  • From: John Gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:02:19 +0000

Hi Mike,
which gps receiver do you use.? with android is it the phone's gps.? when walking about the portability of the device is everything.
At 14:49 12/03/2013, you wrote:
Most, if not all of the tasks you mention here could easily be done using a laptop. Certainly, if your note taker works for you, go for it, but laptops can do much more and are cheaper.
Original message:
As a college student with an iPhone and a braillenote apex I believe there is still room for these devices. I am a music major concentrating in sound engineering. I do not know what I would do without my apex. I use it to not only take notes in class but write blog posts, keep record of track notes and comments, take down what mics are in what inputs and so on. I also use it a lot as a GPS and love how sendero has made their system so great. I feel the that the iPhone seeing eye gps will be a good substitute for when I can't use my note taker either because of bad weather or battery drainage. One added value at least for me is being able to read without having to connect another device via bluetooth and keep up with both devices batteries. Plus the instant on capability is awesome as well. I know that with apps like accessnote you can do this but I feel that if your a hardcore braille user the apple devices only give you so much. At least with a dedicated machine you have it at your finger tips. I'm also learning how to read braille music and find the apex invaluable for learning this method of braille as well. The argument of note takers running outdated operating systems I think is a good point but also think about that you get what you take away from the device as well. For instance, my iPhone has apps that I barely use but I know that if I need them I know they are there.

Aaron Linson
IOS and Android Accessibility Advocate
Once an Eagle
Always an Eagle

On Mar 11, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:


With the availability of main stream mobile devices that are accessible, it simply makes no sense to pay much more money for these notetakers that use outdated operating systems in a proprietary environment. On Mar 11, 2013, at 4:33 PM, "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:



Dale,

Its not really about processor power or memory any more. The differentiating
factor between a PDA and the phone is the keyboard versus the touch screen
or spotty voice recognition, especially in mobile environments. Yes, you can
add an external keyboard or Braille display but that takes away from the
main benefit of the iPhone as a handheld unit. External devices don't always
connect and they are a second item to charge. Add an external GPS receiver
because the built-in one is mediocre, and the mobile situation turns
complicated.

Something like a Braille Sense OnHand has a built in keyboard and GPS, no
external pieces needed.

What I am finding is that people are willing to sacrifice the productivity
of the PDA for the basic functionality of the mobile device. I understand
how it is hard to justify access tech prices even if the products are
superior versus dirt cheap App Store and Market Place mainstream prices.

Mike

From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:28 AM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the ideal way to go

Mike,

Are there any technical reasons why a suitable smart phone cannot offer the
same or even superior capabilities to those of a note taker with respect to
GPS? They do have far superior microprocessors now and more memory if I am
not mistaken and of course built-in receivers, intuitively I would have
thought them a more suitable platform. I don't remember detailed
specifications of note takers as I have always had far more need for direct
mainstream connectivity so got more seamless use from notebook computers.

Thanks.

Dale leavens.

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From: "Michael May" <mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mikemay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] using dual GPS is the ideal way to go




Mary,

Probably a poor choice of words on my part. Let's call dual GPS the ideal
way to go but not the only way. There are plenty of situations where
people
have more than one product, say an iPhone using Audible and a Stream also
using Audible.

I do agree that it is very unfortunate that high priced specialty
technology
costs so much and yet the government funding for it is limited. I'll
address
that in a separate email. The point of my story was to say that the iPhone
is not a replacement for a full fledged accessible GPS product with a real
keyboard and comprehensive real-time and explore features. For those
fortunate enough to have a BrailleNote or Braille Sense with GPS, make the
most of it, especially in challenging situations.

Mike

From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:17 PM
To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: using dual GPS is the only way to go

This really is kind of a sad commentary. How many people who don't get
bucks
from some agency can realistically think about having 2 gps solutions when
one of them costs a whole pile of money, and the remainder of the
applications on that expensive platform can be duplicated elsewhere
cheaper?
Obviously, you can't go from 0 app to full blown solution in 6 months or a
year. But I hope the goal for the ios gps solution is to have a full
product
which will essentially make unnecessary those other entirely too expensive
solutions.
Mary Otten
motten53@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:motten53@xxxxxxxxx>


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